• nostrauxendar@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Shouldn’t MAGA be focused on like, America? I don’t even think most Brits give a fuck what this big eared cunt said.

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      Usually when these stories say “so and so goes nuts” they just mean a handful of idiots on Xwitter making angry posts and a few thousand of the morons who follow them liking and sharing their stupidity.

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      I will never forget how many inbred Canadians were MAGA. Literally driving their trucks demanding the Canadian gov respect their “1st amendment rights”, which in Canada, is interfering with Manitoba becoming a province. Because you know, Canada doesn’t follow American laws.

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      I’d rather they focus on the UK to be totally honest. Nothing against the UK, I’ve just had enough of them and we need a break.

    • abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Basically the American right believe the United Kingdom is an authoritarian hellscape and circlejerk over it, ignoring all evidence to the contrary.

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          Yeah, it is, but wanna know something? It’s the same case in America right now. Like there are OSA style laws right now in US states and The Kids Online Safety Act will bring that federally. The police in the US, be them feds or state or local, are monitoring you and using said information against you. And this isn’t anything new, The Patriot Act, passed in the 00s, demands libraries tell the government what books you have been reading, but it gets worse!

          You think arresting people for calling for Asylum Seekers to be burnt alive in a tweet is a crime against freedom? (And yes, that is what that tweet said.) How’s this for size:

          The US already has one of the biggest surveillance states out there, you can’t even read shit from the library without the government monitoring you, and they are using that to actively fuck over people. An American calling Britain a surveillance Hellscape is like a North Korean calling China an Authoritarian Nightmare.

          But you know what, you’re right, the UK is fucked, but let the people who live here tell you how it’s fucked, not some clickbait articles:

          • The Government openly and straight up hates me and others like me. I’m seeing my rights stripped away because of my trans status and hate groups are suing organisations and companies to force them to ban people like me from being in any way involved with them. The other two parties who seem likely to be the next Government, also hate me, openly.
          • Section 28 is coming back for transgender people.
          • You can be arrested for the words “Palestine Action”, because they were declared a Proscribed group. Meanwhile, Reform UK, who look set to be in government next, openly want to give money to the Taliban as government policy, which, by the way, is illegal for them to even say, and we have fucking Fascists marching through the streets, being protected by police!
          • One of our former Prime Minister basically killed a city’s worth of people in his own country so his friends could make money.
          • Leaving the EU has been a clusterfuck and as fucked everything from the Economy to culture, and even suggesting we should mayhaps work with Europe on things is met with the same reaction as suggesting we legalise murder by the right.
          • Anti-terror legislation is being used for bin disputes.
          • The King’s Brother is a Nonce, we know the government knew because of the Epstein files, and despite this, he’s not in prison, just under House arrest in Sandringham.
          • The government wants to ban VPNs after just learning they fucking exist, so they have a guy who knows fuck all about tech to try figure out how to do it because they want to gather up more personal data for their friends stop 16 year olds from learning about Operation Legacy seeing tiddies.
          • The OSA could lead to Wikipedia being age gated.
          • And we can’t figure out that destabilising countries leads to refugee crisises, generally, as a nation, we somehow haven’t made that obvious link yet.

          But despite all that, despite all this, I can still do something that Americans cannot do: I can say the following without being arrested or being put on a list like:

          The Prime Minister is a square headed Transphobic twat, Donald Trump is a fucking Pedophile who lusted over his own daughter and walked into changing rooms full of underage girls, Charlie Kirk was a horrible human being and him being shot through the neck made me dance around the living room. Transgender rights are human rights and transgender people are not obscene and are people who deserve rights, freedoms and liberties like the rest of us. Gender is not solely dictated by your genitals or Chromosomes, and here’s an AI Generated Image of JD Vance I made where he’s holding a Lolipop, wearing a propeller hat, and is running in terror from Thomas the Fucking Tank Engine.

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            Just to be clear, I have no disagreement with what you said. The UK has crossed some lines first in terms of online privacy violations, but I wouldn’t call the US better in general. Rather, the US, or more specifically Nevada, is where I fight to oppose it, because it’s where I reside. And yes, chances are my efforts will amount to nothing under the corporate hellscape we’ve become, but I still try.

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    The English right-wing nutjobs are correct when they point out that the King of England doesn’t even know what diversity is - or even what it means to do a decent day’s work.

    So however correct on point any of his messages may be, the messenger really isn’t in any position to deliver the message.

    The monarchy needs to go just as much as the far-right nutjobs.

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      How would it serve any of us, except the right wing nut jobs, for him not to spread this message though? I can’t imagine why it’s a good thing for him not to say this. It literally only helps the goals of the right wing nut jobs for him not to spread this message. It’s a message we agree with, it’s objectively true, it’s objectively better for society, and it’s something that needs to be reinforced and said over and over as much as possible. There’s no reason to silence it except if you agree with the right with nut jobs. Literally none.

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        I can’t imagine why it’s a good thing for him not to say this.

        When the king of England, whose brother is a disgraced pedophile, whose entire family - including the pedo and his crooked daughters - enjoys immense undue wealth without lifting a finger and doesn’t pay taxes, whose first wife died like a dog in a ditch because he had an affair with his current one, whose second child is probably a bastard, makes speeches to promote this or that moral value, it achieves the exact opposite.

        The best thing King Charles can do if he wants to improve anything is keep his mouth shut. Or better yet, abdicate and abolish the monarchy.

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          If you demand that people either only do the best thing or nothing, you will get a lot of people doing nothing.

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          Absolutely does not achieve the opposite. It just furthers the point. The only people it would serve for him not to say this is right-wing nut jobs. Only people. You can tell because they’re angry he said it.

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          You keep using that phrase, but there hasn’t been a “King of England” since 1702.

          Andrew was not accused of Paedophilia and all alleged encounters were with women of legal age.

          Only the King, as monarch, is exempt from taxation. He pays income tax voluntarily, and gives 80% of the income of the crown estate to the government.

          Diana died in a car in a tunnel, because she chose to get in a car driven by a coked-up drunk driver and she chose not to wear a seatbelt.

          Charles and Diana both had a string of affairs, starting off with Diana’s affair with one of her royal protection officers, before Charles resumed contact with Camilla.

          Charles has the power to abdicate, but not to abolish monarchy.

          As for the earlier comment about diversity, Charles’ coronation was the first to invite representatives of other faiths to take part.

          There are plenty of things to bash the Royals for, no need to go making more stuff up.

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            Andrew was not accused of Paedophilia and all alleged encounters were with women of legal age.

            Andrew is like Michael Jackson: he was never charged, but of-fucking-course he’s a pedo. Only those who actively want to ignore the obvious can’t see it.

            And what about Eugenie and Beatrice? Next you’ll tell me they’re honest socialites making honest money, right?

            Only the King, as monarch, is exempt from taxation. He pays income tax voluntarily, and gives 80% of the income of the crown estate to the government.

            Oh right. That’s fantastic. Yeah Charles.

            You know what? I don’t get to choose what I give HMRC. Why does he get to choose his tax bracket? Also, he voluntarily pays taxes on things he never worked a minute of his life to deserve. So please! Don’t try to spin a horrendous case of inequality into a positive nice-rich-guy story. Fuck Charles and his entire family with a broomstick: none of those fuckers knows what it is to pull a decent day’s work.

            Charles’ coronation was the first to invite representatives of other faiths to take part.

            How about he gave back all the wealth his family has stolen around the world during the time of the Empire? Hell, if he doesn’t want to indemnify the countless peoples around the world the royal family directly took advantage of, how about he direct the British Museum to return all the stolen artifacts they’re holding on to?

            If I was Canadian first nation, African, Egyptian, Indian, Australian aborigine or New Zealand Maori, I wouldn’t give a fuck about being invited to the inbred’s coronation. But I would care about getting my cultural artifacts back - and also getting an apology from the crown, and some money for my people’s struggles over the centuries, entirely due to the crown.

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              Britain is a constitutional monarchy. The King has no right telling the British Museum what coffee blend to sell in the cafe, let alone change a law and make it dispose its collection.

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      Still, though, it must be nice that your royalty are not the right nut jobs. I agree that they have to go, but as royalty goes, they’re pretty chill. You could do worse then king Charles.

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        You could do worse then king Charles.

        That’s like saying driving a Model 3 isn’t so bad: you could be driving a Cybertruck. The premise is that you’re stuck with a lemon.

        I suggest that you could do much, much better than being stuck with any king.

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          Tell ya what, you take our Tangerine Shit-gibbon (who certainly fancies himself a king) and we’ll take ol’ Charlie-boy.

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      Down with kings and queens and emperors. But right now he is there, he does have that ability to get the message out, and millions of people agree with him about this issue.

      They always say professional athletes should STFU about politics, right? But that’s nonsense too. Send the good message. Haters will hate, but most of them were a lost cause anyway. It’s everyone else that you’re talking to, and they are listening, and they do care.

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      The British Empire ruled over very pretty diverse people alright. It’s still the same ruling families in power, that ran imperial colonialism.

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        Yeah but they didn’t celebrate diversity, they subjugated and exploited it.

        The Battenberg-Saxe-Coburg Mountbatten-Windsor family doesn’t like to admit it, but most of its wealth is built on the exploitation of the Empire’s colonies.

        So when the head of that particular crime family makes a speech to promote diversity, you’ll excuse me if I feel a wave of nausea.

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    MAGA goes nuts if their mailman is the wrong color, who cares about these reactionary idiots anymore, I hate how much time we’re being forced to spend kowtowing to a bunch of morons.

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    Charles makes a solid point. Like the rest of us, King Charles isn’t his ancestors. Some of us inherit poverty, some of us inherit wealth. We can however

    The main dissenters to his stance are MAGA, Brxiteers, Farage-phile, Tommy Robinson-philes. Never give those fascists any support.

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    MAGA prefers the Prince Andrew branch of the family. Trump will probably start demanding that they kick out Charles, skip William, and crown Andrew as King.

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    Weird. I just chose that in Stellaris too. Xenophile ethics attraction +25%. It literally is a great strength too, being able to inhabit all habitable planets, faster, saving terraforming resources for the barrens.

    And I’ll still loose to AI who stay at least 10k points ahead til the end. And why did I buy that voidworms expansion this winter sale? How has that been helpful?

    What were we talking about?

    (MAGA is a bag of dicks, we can’t change them any more than you can change the nature of your abusive, alcoholic spouse. The solutions there are the same as well: kick them out, lock them up, or run away.)

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    I assume he was mostly referring to the major ethnicities of the 4 British countries that he’s King of.

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    What does MAGA care? They are Americans and have no business getting up in arms what the British king says. Does MAGA prefer if Andrew had become the king instead? Of course yes. Birds of same pedophilic feathers flock together.

    Anyway, as controversial King Charles is even before taking the throne, I applaud that he nonetheless upholds the liberal values that his grandfather cherishes since World War II.

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    They ‘probably’ don’t expect him to be on their side considering that they ‘probably’ know he’s not a US monarch. They’re just so used to their own king openly acting like a despot, that they therefor have an expectation that ‘olde tyme’ symbols of totalitarianism like kings and emperors should always act the part. He’s ruining the aesthetics

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    Yeah way easier to keep the people divided so they don’t unite against the ruling class. Definitely his strength.