Opinion: Wasn't 2025 the year it happened? Yes. No. Answers on a Christmas card

As Torvalds pointed out in 2019, is that while some major hardware vendors do sell Linux PCs – Dell, for example, with Ubuntu – none of them make it easy. There are also great specialist Linux PC vendors, such as System76, Germany’s TUXEDO Computers, and the UK-based Star Labs, but they tend to market to people who are already into Linux, not disgruntled Windows users. No, one big reason why Linux hasn’t taken off is that there are no major PC OEMs strongly backing it. To Torvalds, Chromebooks “are the path toward the desktop.”

  • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zipEnglish
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    6 hours ago

    You need me to spell out what I said? Windows did not have a clipboard. That is it. You could enable one separately for word/excel for awhile.

    Otherwise the system got one slot. ONE to hold text. That was it. And there wasn’t even a way to look at the contents for a very long time.

    I was explaining what I mean. What more could i say?

    You are highlighting exactly what I am talking about: Linux has had a ton of features for the desktop for years (better right click context menus, better network protocol support, better nearly everything) but windows people didn’t so they don’t even know why using windows was basically living in the dark ages until Windows 10 started to get some worthwhile features. Windows 11 was the first to actually get a nearly functional file manager for example.

    I mean you are thinking QR read/write is not a useful clipboard feature?

    • uncouple9831@lemmy.zipEnglish
      1·
      23 minutes ago

      For those curious, the Wikipedia page for the old 1992 clipboard manager was able to answer my question: Microsoft added this feature, specifically a history viewer, which I must have promptly turned off 10 years ago and forgotten about. I’m guessing but we will probably never confirm that this guy is talking about tabs in the windows 11 file manager, something else I immediately turned off because it’s stupid and doesn’t really add anything to the usability of the system.

      • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zipEnglish
        1·
        5 minutes ago

        So this

        ClipBook Viewer has been removed from Windows Vista and later, although the ability to view clipboard contents has been implemented into the Clipboard History feature, which was introduced in Windows 10 and later.

        In Windows XP, it is not listed in the Start menu and can only be accessed through its executable file, ClipBrd.exe

        Worth pointing out that there are no viable citations on that page, all I remember is that it kept functioning like a win 3.1 and not integrated as the sentence above suggests.

        Also gone all together in 7: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/2660614/access-clipboard-windows-7

        And even when the clipbook was there, I would not call it functional by any means.

        Yes tabs in Windows 11 filemanager. Still no split screen, but at least you can keep file management in a single window.

        Do you just immediately turn off every feature a desktop environment gives you? I have no problem if you simply use Sway or something that lets the DE get out of your way. But if you are going into a discussion about the features of two DE’s and say I never liked having choice, I just turn it all off, whats the point? Seems like a stupid argument to be had.

        Stuff linux had that windows didnt for YEARS: Virtual desktops (I am sure you hate those, I have used them since Amiga days), linux technically has two clipboards and ways of selecting paste, windows still cant do single clicking effectively, colors and other file visualization, alt-drag anything, muti taskbars, keyboard tilling managers… and on and on

        YOU may not like it, but the fact is windows was featureless compared to Linux.

      • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zipEnglish
        1·
        1 hour ago

        Maybe you should just turn off the computer. It seems to annoy you.

        Displeasure? I have to manage windows and azure environments and believe me that is displeasure. At least I get to do it all from a reliable Linux environment.

        If you don’t like clipboards than ok, you can turn it off. For those of us the like them, it’s an option windows never had until recently.

        Yes shit. No decent file manager. No clip board. No internet protocols built in. No state awarenes and on and on. Win 11 is starting to get there but they are so busy going worse at the same time it’s pointless.

        Windows still doesn’t have an nvme driver for goodness sake.

        I have described them over and over, but you hate them or something and are annoyed so I guess having options is not for you.

        This is all started with a discussion about the Linux desktop being less than windows historically. Clearly that is not the case when one is feature rich and the other has been playing catch up for years.