Windows 11 often requires new hardware. But that will be extremely pricey or have very little RAM for a while.

I dont believe that a single competent person works at Micro$oft anymore, but maybe maybe this could lead them to make a less shitty OS?

And garbage software like Adobe Creative Cloud too?

They obviously dont care about users, but the pain could become too big.

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    You’re off by a large margin. I’ll use two well documented examples.

    Whatsapp native used about 300mb with large chats. Cpu usage stayed relatively low and constant. Yes it wasn’t great but that’s a separate issue. The new webview2 version hits over a gig and spikes the cpu more than some of my games.

    Discord starts at 1gb memory usage and exceeds 4gb during normal use. That’s straight from the developers. It’s so bad they have started rolling out an experimental update that makes the app restart itself when it hits 4gb.

    These are just two electron apps meant just for chatting mostly. That’s up to 5Gb with just those two apps. Electron and webview2 both spin up full node.js servers and multiple JavaScript heaps plus whatever gpu threads they run, and are exceedingly bad at releasing resources. That’s exactly why they are the problem. Yes the actual JavaScript bundles discord and Whatsapp use are probably relatively small, but you get full chromium browsers and all of their memory usage issues stacked on top.

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      Right
      But those are only problems because they use the resources in the background. When the foreground app uses a lot of resources it’s not a problem because you only have one foreground app at a time (I know, not really, but kinda). Most apps don’t need to run in the background.

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        Yes, thats the problem? I’m confused what you’re not getting here. Those programs are made to constantly run. Many people need both for various reasons. Add a main program like Photoshop and then you don’t have enough RAM. People don’t load discord, check a message, close it, load Whatsapp, check it, close it, then load Photoshop.

        The RAM usage doesn’t suddenly stop because you alt+tab to a different program.

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          There are, of course, bad offenders.

          I’m just skeptical that “webapps that need a ton of resources and people leave open” is the norm. But I haven’t done any research on it so maybe it is.