I love these three socialist lemmies. So I’m posting this here. Not sure how well or how mixed a reception this will get here. Not sure if the right place to post it. Plausibly shall step on some toes (with the bottommost instance of “not my left”) a bit. And I imagine there may be some responses nitpicking that 3 of the "not my left"s are more left than “my left” ~ to which I say, misses the point. Anyhoo… enjoy, or don’t. I strive to protect your freedom to receive things however you wish. Love that bitch called interpretation. ;D But I do hope it sparks some interesting thought, discussion, and maybe even is a useful tool. At the very least, it’ll help (a bit) to explain what I mean when I keep saying “not my left”, to those who misrepresent the authoritarian left as “the left”, or even really really misrepresent by calling the nowadays so-called “liberal” (left side of authoritarian right) as “the left”.


Left is for liberation. If you aren’t for liberation we don’t have much to talk about.
But sure, some forms of solidarity with rightists can be valid.
Liberation from what exactly? I am all for liberation, but it’s not liberation if not everyone can have it.
Oppressive political and economic structures. Not sure why you think I’m saying not everyone should get this, although realistically liberation is unlikely to arrive everywhere simultaneously.
+1 egalitarian liberation.
Free and free alike, beats free to unfree.
(I usually say that with regards to the bifurcation of Free Software licenses/philosophies, preferring copyleft [free and free alike] over permissive [free to unfree]… but it works here too [where the “alike” is more related to the egalitarianism, than the ongoing freedom assurance]. Heh.)
The issue is that you cannot enforce this equity when unequality arrises
“We are convinced that liberty without socialism is privilege, injustice; and that socialism without liberty is slavery and brutality.” – Mikhail Bakunin
Good reply.
Though…
Maybe all the more reason to talk, if the would-be conversational partner is not for liberation.
Seems all the more important to expose those minds to educations, pedagogy, of philosophies of egalitarian liberation.
Otherwise, leaves them festering more malignant in their unchallenged echo-chamber bias of anti-liberation philosophy.
Just before clicking reply, Daryl Davis sprang to mind. The black guy who speaks with KKK and Nazi Party members, and over 200 have left those organisations, and had a change of mind (and heart), thanks to being exposed to experience and information contrary to their ignorance and hateful authoritarian indoctrination.
Stuff like that great exemplar. :)