• chitak166@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Unskilled usually means no experience required.

    I think we should just say the latter.

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      11 months ago

      The cross-industry term for “no experience required” is “entry level”, not unskilled.

      I don’t think that there’s such a thing as unskilled jobs, because no company would ever advertise that they are seeking “unskilled” laborers. Even jobs like flipping burgers at McDonalds are treated with a certain degree of seriousness and professional reverence by the company themselves. They want to hire people who are quick on their feet, are familiar with how to cook, can memorize orders including substitutions, multitask in the kitchen, and so on. Those are undeniably skills that one must train, either independently or on the job itself.

      Unskilled labor is entirely a fictitious term invented by the media to describe jobs that they deem unimportant or trivial, with the sole purpose of denigrating the demographic of people who work those jobs as a primary means to earn a living.

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        11 months ago

        The cross-industry term for “no experience required” is “entry level”, not unskilled.

        Not true. For example, “entry-level” Python programming jobs will expect you to have experience with the Python programming language.

        They will not teach you Python programming skills, let alone programming skills in general, on-site.

        You’re conflating with “no occupation experience” with “no prior experience.”

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          11 months ago

          “Experience” is generally defined as prior work history in the same field, not occupational knowledge. An entry level job necessarily means that you can apply for the job and still have a chance to get hired even if it is your first ever job (or, in a perfect world, that’s what it would mean, yet we live in a world where “entry level” job postings exist that also require 3-5 years of prior work history in the field).

          Of course, just because it’s an entry level position, that doesn’t mean that someone who knows nothing about the job they are applying for can get it. That’s why I specified that every job has skills that you need to train either on the job or independently. In the case of python programming, you would absolutely need those skills down pat before applying to the job, because the expectation is that you are sufficiently competent with the language and can start on projects right away.

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      11 months ago

      It’s not even no experience required, it’s usually “can learn on the job”…

      In theory you could learn any job “on the job”, it’s just that some jobs would take a lot more of the existing employees time to teach.

      Also, if “time to learn” = more pay, then astrophysicts and philosophers would be some of the richest mofos out there.

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      11 months ago

      Bull.

      The idea of forcing Phony Stark to be a farm laborer for a week is quite hilarious, though - he’d probably die within 24 hours (I did say it would be hilarious, after all).

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        11 months ago

        Jobs that don’t require experience may also need on-site training.

        What’s the problem?