• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 days ago

    I don’t think using one single antiquated character (just the one, because that makes sense) makes for a dialect.

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      2 days ago

      We’ve got a lot of people saying that swapping in either one or two antiquated characters makes it significantly difficult to read, if they don’t know how to interpret the characters.

      Maybe dialect is the wrong term, what would you call l33t sp34k?

      Thats a fairly close equivalent, though it swaps out more characters and also has its own vernacular, vocabulary.

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          9 hours ago

          Cryptolect.

          First time I’ve ever heard that word, but that does make sense.

          Funny to imagine it was more or less invented by a bunch of dorky ‘unrestricted internet access’ kids on AIM in the mid to late 90s / early 2000s, as compared to something more like street slang that also serves to obfuscate the meaning to outsiders.

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            9 hours ago

            Goodness me, no. It’s much older than that, and I wasn’t exaggerating or kidding when I called it a thieves’ cant. It was developed by hackers in the 80’s to evade moderation and legal authorities. It was then gradually leaked to the more general internet population as Eternal September set in and many children began engaging in hacking and piracy.

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              8 hours ago

              Um… huh.

              Ok.

              I guess I was one of those kids, uh, teehee.

              I believe you… went to the wiki page… all the citations that point toward actual sources for ‘it originated in the 80s on BBS’ and such…

              The citation is simply ‘Mitchell’.

              My mind first went to Kevin Mitnick… but his name is not Mitchell, just kinda close…

              Who tf is ‘Mitchell’?

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet

              Yes, “needs additional citations for verifications” indeed.

              If you can actually source what you’re saying, somehow, please go actually help wikipedia, lol.