The ability to change features, prices, and availability of things you’ve already paid for is a powerful temptation to corporations.

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      The performers time is not infinitely reproducible so your argument is apples to oranges.

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        But the time to create a novel, a videogame, or a news story is not infinitely reproducible, either. So when you are pirsting one of those things, you are actively reaping the benefits of someone’s time for free, like going to a concert without a ticket

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          There’s a difference between the performer’s time to create not being infinitely reproducible, and an user’s time to use the product being or not infinitely reproducible. Whether I’m pirating or buying a TV show, the actors were already compensated for their time and use for the show; my payment for buying actually goes to the corporate fat: licensors, distributors, etc.

          Whereas when pay a ticket into a live concert, I’m actually paying for something to be made.

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              It just magically appears /s Its disingenuous to try and justify piracy on the basis that the performers have already been paid. I don’t agree with studios either of course, customers are being scammed

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            This only applies to cases where the artist/actor/whatever gets paid upfront. Most of the times, that does not happen. The creator of something only gets money when somebody buys what they have created (books, videogames, music, etc)

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              Even if they were paid upfront, they were paid off the idea that the company could make bank on their (ready yourself for the word in case it triggers): Intellectual Property.

              In a future world where people have achieved their wish and the concept no longer exists, companies have no reason to pay creators ahead of time.

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      I don’t see anything wrong with paying for software or music or digital media. I don’t think that not doing so is theft - like I also don’t think that getting into a concert without paying is theft. By the way a concert is also not digital data, at least an irl one.

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        A library card is your ticket there and libraries are paid via taxes, which is why they’re free at point of use.

        Attending a free concert is not stealing. Breaking into the Eras tour is.

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          The library buys once and allows multiple people to read/watch each item without each person needing to individually purchase. Just like one person buying something and sharing it with others.

          The main point is that digitization distribution is not a concert

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            Digital distribution is a service. You can steal a service.

            If you fuck a prostitute and then don’t pay them, you are stealing from them.

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              If the prostitute uses a technique, and then you use the same technique without paying hem for reuse, is that stealing or does their direct involvement matter?

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                If you’re going to retype the code of a program from scratch, then your analogy is valid. If instead you are taking the production created through someone else’s labor without compensating them, then you are stealing from them.

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                Prostitutes don’t become prostitutes because they know secret techniques.

                The metaphor is describing the service provided, and that not paying for said service is indeed stealing.

                Trying to make it a different metaphor requires a new framework from you, because you copying their actual service would be you pimping them, under this metaphor.

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                  Someone sharing content on a peer to peer distribution network is not using the digital distribution service of whoever sold the content. They are not ‘stealing’ HBOs bandwidth to share Game of Thrones.

                  They are sharing a thing that they initially paid for from HBO at no cost to others, similar to letting your friends watch it with you on your TV at the same time. The only difference is scale.

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                    HBOs service is “provide access to GoT”

                    If you provide access to GoT, by acquiring their content and then redistributing it, you are stealing the same way you pimping your prostitute is stealing.

                    Idk why people here love stealing but hate admitting it. It’s fuckin weird. Like the literal word used is “piracy” for shits sake lol

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              It’s okay I won’t use their digital distribution system to pirate their stuff.

              It’s just like falling to pay a prostitute you never fucked

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              You’re not using their distribution service when you pirate something. That’s the whole point.

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        Libraries get money via tax. What people here are arguing for is that others should work for them or free. Because game studios, for example, are overwhelmingly not paid via tax money. They are depending on people buying their software. And many software has ongoing costs.

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      I have never had a problem with people taking a tape recorder to a concert, even if it’s against terms of service