Do I have the right to refuse my medication? I plan on refusing everything they plan to give me, and, if they have a problem with that, I am going to call the police.

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    Okay, so I’ll be blunt here.

    My case manager, his boss, my doctor, and my therapist are all completely incompetent […] they don’t know that i am only manic when i am on drugs […] the correct diagnosis, which is substance induced bipolar disorder.

    So you’re hiding your drug use from the people who are trying to help you, then complain that they can’t correctly diagnose you because you’re hiding your drug use?

    All of my previous manic episodes were drug induced. I have literally never ever had a manic episode while sober […] I had concerning behaviors last month when I was high all the time.

    As someone who’s been going to DBSA meetings for 14 years now, bipolar can manifest differently in many people. It’s entirely possible that you are bipolar in “normal life” but go very out of control when you take drugs. And fyi, about 40% of bipolar people “self-medicate” with drugs.

    And, as someone who’s spent a lot of time with addicts, both in and out of recovery: you were using drugs 17 years ago, you were using drugs recently, you’re hiding your drug use from at least 4 people who are trying to help you, and you’re very defensive about your situation.

    Dude, when I look at you, I see a drug user in denial about their use. And while you may not be using drugs at the moment, I don’t think you have a chance of maintaining your sobriety without help, because your attempts at maintaining sobriety so far haven’t worked.

    And you may say, “well, this was a special situation because (whatever)”, but life is always going to be throwing (whatevers) at you, so you need to be able to maintain sobriety despite (whatever).

    If you can’t maintain sobriety without help, then you need help. Admitting you need help isn’t a character flaw or a weakness; we all need help with different things throughout our lives.

    Now, if you don’t like the type of help these people are offering you, that’s also valid, but it leaves you two real choices for recovery here: tell them about your drug use so they can stop “misdiagnosing” you and direct you to more appropriate help; or admit you have a recurring drug problem that’s affecting your mental health and find a type of help that works for you.

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    sounds like you need to make a plan on how to stay sober.

    if you are forced, i would bring that up. that the medication isn’t helpful and the issue is drug addiction, and see if your “treatment plan” can be “maintaining sobriety” rather than “treating bipolar”, as “maintaining sobriety” treats the bipolar. i know these places tend to suck with treatment and so they may not be on board, but it’s good to mention on the off-chance they say yes. in which case, you would actually be getting the treatment you need. do note that a treatment plan for this may involve some medication use, depending on the medication i wouldn’t necessarily push back, as the meds might be sobriety-specific, not mood meds.

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    I have a sibling that has BPD.

    If the meds are not working contact another health professional and be stern that you did not like the medication you were on.

    Also people lose jobs because of BPD the fact that your employer has asked to seek medication is good, the alternative is getting fired and being jobless.

    Contact another health professional and get some advice.

    My sibling’s meds did not work for 6 weeks and it was a huge burden and stress on everyone, with the right meds you can be right as rain again.

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    This is tricky because with bipolar normally you need medication, even if you do not have manic episodes. There is few things you can do though and that ask for re evaluation on situation since you are sober , you can request your medical files to gain clearer understanding and ask for medication adjustment if its not working for you. If they are committing you then that could because you met criteria to place you . Have you displayed any concerning behaviours that they may want keep you? . I will never tell someone to go off their meds or stop getting help but I do tell people still advocate for themselves, their no harm in asking to re evaluate the situation or ask for adjustment.

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      I had concerning behaviors last month when I was high all the time. My case manager, his boss, my doctor, and my therapist are all completely incompetent (my therapist uses chatgpt for everything) they don’t know that i am only manic when i am on drugs

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        Why do you think they use chat gpt ? If you are using substances with your psych medications you can have significant problems. Have you considered rehab? Detox? Im just worried for your well being right now

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          I’m sober. I went to rehab in 2018. Relapsed from 2019-2022, sober since then, with a few relapses. But the relapses weren’t severe. Like I drank once a week, and when I did drink, it was like a six pack, which is a third of what I used to drink every day

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            Relapses are tricky with bipolar , that why beneficial to go meetings to keep maintaining your sobriety. You really need be 100% clean to have better results with your bipolar disorder

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      I am 39 years old. The same thing happened to me right before my 36th birthday, when my doctor (i won’t dox him but let’s pretend his name is “frank”) tricked me into going to the psych ward against my permission. Frank is the same guy who gave me ECT when it wasn’t needed. I lost my ability to feel emotions for years because of Frank. Also my other doc (not gonna dox him, but let’s say his name is “david”) prescribed me 2mg klonopin when he knew I was an alcoholic. I should be dead because of david, and frank is why i lost the last three years of my life, and another doc (let’s say his name is “jeffrey”) was what started it all in 2009l, when he misdiagnosed me.

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        prescribed me 2mg klonopin when he knew I was an alcoholic

        Did you tell him you were sober and that ended up not being accurate?

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        Look up involuntary psychiatric detainment laws in your state.

        You could also just, run. Sometimes it works especially if you didn’t commit a hanus crime but that may not be an option for you.

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          i can’t run. if i do i lose my house and i am on the street. my parents won’t take me in because they’re working with frank and david

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    I was misdiagnosed and had 16 years of my life stolen from me because they gave me the wrong meds. They want to continue giving me those meds. No one knows the correct diagnosis, which is substance induced bipolar disorder. They think I have regular bipolar I

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      I believe that becaue I am sober now, I am not in danger of having a manic episode. All of my previous manic episodes were drug induced. I have literally never ever had a manic episode while sober, yet these people think I need to take the same meds that made me a zombie from 2009-2013

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    I posted a similar thread on r/legaladvice.

    Reddit is compromised by Russian/Chinese/Indian bots. They are all telling me I need to take my zombie pills and I am in the middle of a manic episode and I do not know what I am saying. The peak of my mania was Nov 30, and I have been gradually been getting more stable since then. At this point, I feel stable, but my father always says I am manic when I show too much emotion. My father doesn’t let me spend any money unless he approves it.

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      I found your Reddit post. You called the two users who disagreed with you bots and also emphasized strange details about yourself, others, and the situation. You’ve clearly got some level of paranoia and unclear thinking going on. I hope you find a suitable doctor and mental health treatment and I wish you good luck.

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        Everyone calls me a bot all the time. Three years ago I had a nervous breakdown and kept screaming “I’M NOT A BOT!” at my father, who later called the police on me. My father thinks I am manic and psychotic whenever I show too much emotion.

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          That’s not a healthy reaction from you and I can see why he’d think you’re manic because that sort of behavior is mania. Try to locate and contact another mental health professional if your current one is not working for you.