• ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
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    Most complaint against Rust is fucking culture war, not technical, so people who actually have technical concerns with Rust are being lumped together with Brian Lunduke and others.

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      Rust is fucking culture war

      I’ve worked with a lot of devs. I’ve seen a group of devs invent a new language to keep from having to learn a new off-the-shelf language.

      I’ve seen devops rip out entire working systems and work on replacement python for months rather than coming up to speed on existing stuff.

      It honestly think a lot of it comes from the poor perception of starting over from scratch on someone else’s code vs on your own code.

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        Rust was among the first more well known projects, which adopted a Code of Conduct, then grifters in the OSS community cried censorship, which made people flock to it to “own the right”. Even if I think it’s an overrated marriage of flesh between C and OCaml, Code of Conducts are generally a good thing, and the people who really like toxic callouts arre more of an anomaly, and likely were flown there due to the culture war stuff.

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          People hate rust because of its fences/training wheels, not because it’s “woke”

          …actually I just saw someone in this very comment section ranting about “soydevs”, you’re not wrong. But there are valid complaints too! Some of us are just old and think our computers should do whatever we tell them up to and including “shit yourself and catch fire”

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            But there are valid complaints too! Some of us are just old and think our computers should do whatever we tell them up to and including “shit yourself and catch fire”

            I agree with this, but I think rust is fine here. It has unsafe as a keyword that let’s you do the breaking stuff, it just makes sure you know you’re doing something dangerous and makes it stand out for code reviewers

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            That’s why I prefer D’s approach for memory safety. Sure, it’s not as well featured as Rust’s, however it has “fat pointers”, three levels of safety, and kind of optional garbage collector.