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Lemmygrad becomes what you make of it. We strive to be a disciplined Marxist-Leninist space, not a second Reddit.

For some time, we have noticed a lack of discipline taking hold on Lemmygrad. This isn’t a space to get a quick quip in before dipping out, or to admonish someone for not sharing your opinions. This is a space to grow. To discuss things you can’t discuss elsewhere, ask thoughtful questions, and submit your ideas for comradely consideration, with the understanding that others will engage with them in the same spirit.

Clarifying what “be respectful” means in practice

Our sitewide rule 3 states: “Be respectful. This is a safe space where all comrades should feel welcome; this includes a warning against uncritical sectarianism.

We need to clarify what “respect” means here, in the context of a disciplined political space. It’s not just politeness; rule 3 extends to disciplinary failures in engagement, including:

  • Making undisciplined, low-effort comments, especially in tense or theory conversations.
  • Entrenching oneself to prove a point rather than to discuss an idea.
  • Insulting or disparaging comrades.
  • Trolling or acting in bad faith.
  • Refusing to budge on one’s held beliefs and lashing out as a consequence.

From now on, we will enforce this rule more heavily. This is also a moment of self-criticism: in wanting to be hands-off and promote self-moderation, we have let things slide that we shouldn’t have. To address this, we are recruiting more community mods and discussing adding new admins alongside making this post.

The core principle: struggle against ideas, not individuals

This is the foundation of comradely struggle. If you can’t make a comment without resorting to pettiness, strawmanning, or attacking the individual instead of pointing out the flaws in their ideas, we urge you to step back. Not everything needs an immediate reaction.

Conversely, you are expected to start discussions in good faith so that you receive the same treatment.

Why draw this distinction? Debates struggle against individuals, using underhanded tactics to “win” in front of an audience. Our method is to struggle against incorrect ideas, with the goal of helping each other grow and develop our place in the struggle.

A concrete historical example

During the Long March, Bo Gu was removed from command of the Red Army at the Zunyi Conference. Mao and others argued that Bo had rigidly applied USSR Red Army tactics, leading to excessive, avoidable losses against the KMT.

The decision wasn’t about the committee liking Mao more. It was a recognition that the tactics were incompatible with reality and needed to change. Crucially, was Bo Gu solely to blame? No. He had been put in command by the Politburo, which shared responsibility for believing those tactics would work. This wasn’t primarily an individual moral failing, but a collective responsibility for a flawed line that needed correction. Notably, Bo Gu continued to work alongside Mao and Zhou afterwards.

This is our model. We critique the line, the strategy and the idea – not the comrade’s worth. Leave the ego at the door. We work for the community, we don’t commandeer it.

New policy in moderation

Guided by this principle, our moderation will change.

We will now more readily delete comments that break rule 3, and we will use short, temporary bans (1-2 days) more often as a “cooling-off” period. These bans may be local to a specific community or instance-wide at our discretion.

We know nobody likes bans, but experience shows these short breaks effectively defuse tense situations. We also count on mods to use this tool within their communities. If a dispute spills outside of the original comment chain, we will consider it harassment and issue longer bans.

We also want to add a word in regards to serial downvoting. Downvotes can be used as harassment, and we urge you to consider before issuing a downvote on a post or comment. Ask yourself: is it helpful to downvote? Is it productive? What does it communicate?

These standards also apply to users from other instances. We expect you to apply them when you post on Lemmygrad.

Your responsibility and how to report effectively

We appreciate your cooperation if a temp ban is issued to your account. If it happens, the best thing you can do is reflect on it privately (or with comrades if you feel so inclined) and then move on from it. Making a post to complain about a ban after it’s passed has shown through experience that it’s rarely productive - this is not us telling you not to appeal to be clear, just that the best thing you can do is to simply carry on after a ban. So thank you for cooperating with the admin team and the community on this.

Moderation is a partnership. When you report something, we see only the specific content, your username, and your reason in the report. Understanding the full context requires significant labor. Therefore, your role is critical:

  • Your first tool should be disengagement. Step away from unproductive conversations. You do not need to have the last word.
  • When reporting, provide context. Explain why in the reason box. What happened, and why exactly are you making a report? Reports used as a “super-downvote” or for revenge don’t help.
  • Understand that we see this from an outside perspective. We can’t know how you feel in the moment of a heated conversation, and through experience we find that usually both parties have some blame by the time we get the report. This is why we ask you to step away and report instead of participating in a conversation that is spiraling out of control.

tl;dr: commenting and posting on Lemmygrad ought to be thoughtful, principled, good faith and Marxist in nature. Diamat means that both parties should abide by these principles with the other to make a new dialectic emerge.

Please feel free to ask questions in the comments.

    • CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.mlOP
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      5 days ago

      Downvoting can be abused and become a form of harassment, but it’s not immediately harassment to downvote someone.

      However investigating downvote patterns is difficult and can easily yield false positives if not done carefully. So at this time we are only reminding the community to be mindful of their own downvotes and self-moderate. We may want to contact a user if we notice a certain pattern and ask about it, but we haven’t planned on issuing out bans based on downvotes alone.

    • Large Bullfrog@lemmygrad.ml
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      5 days ago

      I think it’s reasonable to ban if someone goes around blindly downvoting every single post or comment in a thread, or if someone goes about stalking a specific user and downvoting every post they make.

      • the rizzler@lemmygrad.ml
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        4 days ago

        idk if i agree about the single-thread stuff. for going through a single person’s history and downvoting all their posts, i think it’s reasonable in certain circumstances, but i don’t think votes should be something you have to think about deeply. they’re already not meant to convey a lot anyway

        also because you shouldn’t have to think too much about it, i almost wonder if the mods should be making a point of looking at votes at all. maybe in exceptional circumstances like targeted harassment, but idk. it’s not like it disrupts the conversation or takes away points from your account

      • Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml
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        Not gonna lie I kinda like being down vote stalked. Its a little reminder I said something that really got under someone’s skin but they can’t dispute it. So I was probably right and they are being petty.