It’s impossible for any party to appeal to a majority of voters on everything. If Democrats could have done something to be more appealing to greens than Stein was, then whatever that something was would have turned off some other segment of the coalition, possible losing net votes. Winning a national election requires broad appeal, and being the only viable non-fascist, pro-democracy ticket should have been reason enough for any decent person to vote for the Democratic candidate. I don’t know what these greens want, but not living in a Christo-fascist hellhole is apparently not a high priority for them. Fuck them to hell.
I was responding to a comment that naively implied Dems policy applied to not upsetting majority of voters, like it was purely middle of the road acceptable stuff. It is not, and we shouldn’t pretend it is.
Agreed, Democratic leadership’s stance on Israel was/is out of step with the majority of the base. Also, that does not make them fascist, as you implied.
I don’t know how to make this simpler. The two major parties in our country are different. Republicans are much worse than Democrats. Your life and the lives of those you care about will be worse if you vote for Republicans, third party, or don’t vote. These are indisputable facts, and it is frustrating that so many people who should understand them do not.
This is a good example of the type of (nominally leftist) person who is essentially unpersuadable. How are you supposed to convince these guys to vote when they don’t see a meaningful difference between MAGA and normie Democrats? They don’t live in reality.
It’s impossible for any party to appeal to a majority of voters on everything. If Democrats could have done something to be more appealing to greens than Stein was, then whatever that something was would have turned off some other segment of the coalition, possible losing net votes. Winning a national election requires broad appeal, and being the only viable non-fascist, pro-democracy ticket should have been reason enough for any decent person to vote for the Democratic candidate. I don’t know what these greens want, but not living in a Christo-fascist hellhole is apparently not a high priority for them. Fuck them to hell.
Non-fascist? What was their line on Palestine again? Tutting and selling more weapons?
They didn’t even have policy that appealed to most. They had policy appealed to their donors and it’s really naive if you cannot see that.
The Democrats’ general stance on Israel is appalling, but that does not equate to fascism.
Who said it does?
I was responding to a comment that naively implied Dems policy applied to not upsetting majority of voters, like it was purely middle of the road acceptable stuff. It is not, and we shouldn’t pretend it is.
Agreed, Democratic leadership’s stance on Israel was/is out of step with the majority of the base. Also, that does not make them fascist, as you implied.
I don’t know how to make this simpler. The two major parties in our country are different. Republicans are much worse than Democrats. Your life and the lives of those you care about will be worse if you vote for Republicans, third party, or don’t vote. These are indisputable facts, and it is frustrating that so many people who should understand them do not.
Democrats are not pro democracy nor non fascist.
This is a good example of the type of (nominally leftist) person who is essentially unpersuadable. How are you supposed to convince these guys to vote when they don’t see a meaningful difference between MAGA and normie Democrats? They don’t live in reality.
I’m actually leftist. people who don’t believe what I said are the ones who are not living in reality
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