steam becoming a worse platform idk?
I don’t like Christians
thats okay! as long as your bullying no one
I don’t like anyone that wants to make laws based on their favorite fairytale.
Looks like someone forgot what quotation marks mean.
Who?
he’s pointing out that the quotation is not exact to what the review said, but like it was a twitter post or something, and the quotated meaning was spot on anyways, so he’s being pedantic for no good reason.
the reviewer is part of the ‘media should not comment on politics’ crowd who considers a persons race or nationality, as long as it’s not the same as theirs, to be a political statement in of its self.
so a moral-less class-less racist loser
Where is the text of the actual review? I dont know about you but the only text I can see on that image is the word Muslim, nothing else. Maybe not getting the best quality image or something but it’s still really hard to read.
(Edit)Nvmd the quality is better on the bluesky version, dunno what op/lemmy did here.
It’s in the Blue Sky message when you click on it.
I felt it was important to provide the whole chain untouched.
Here is the Muslim one
what a fucking chad developer.
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I zoomed in and read carefully. Don’t bother. He’s calling it “woke”, implying that his problem is just with Islam specifically.
Yeah i zoomed in, I think the quality got degraded by lemmy either on upload or download
Weird , looks fine on my end.
Must be client side then
Based dev and I wishlistrd that game because it looks fun and I want to support them for the response alone, but I think I kind of agree with that decision, or can at least see where it’s coming from. Disliking a game for its political message seems entirely valid to me, if someone made an otherwise amazing game but the message is “hitler was great actually”, I’d like to be able to negatively review that. And since it’s not review bombing but actual individual idiots, it shouldn’t have a big impact wrt to the ratio. If anything I read a review like that and become more interested in the game. Allowing it at least keeps them honest.
Though “it has muslims” as a negative review reason still seems like it should be removed just for being racist (or if i were to give the reviewer way more benefit of the doubt than they deserve, sounding racist. I guess in theory they could just not like religions in games, but let’s be real they’d love if it were christians instead).
Its a “valid,” review in that it does describe how they dont like the game and why, and hinestpy thats better than 90% of reviews. However, and this is a big however, racists should not get a pass and should be banned and removed for being racist. We should not brook these type of people and especially not give them a platform. It only makes things worse. Stamp the problem out with prejudice.
Problem is that “Hitler” is an individual while “Muslim” is multiple groups of people all with different views.
Also yeah it’s usually used as synonym for “brown people.”
It would be interesting to test with other groups of people. For example, when happens if all my review says is “I don’t like jews” or “I don’t like Americans/Russians/Chinese people”.
Wouldn’t a more comparable test be “I don’t like Christians” or “I don’t like vegans”? If they say Jews it’s often racist, not about their personal beliefs.
“Muslims” is often used in a racist way to mean brown people, not just refer to a religious group. “Jews” is used in the same way, to refer to an ethnic group as often as a religion.
The two are used by racists in almost the exact same way. “Christians” are mainly white, so racists dont often attack them at all, especailly since a large contingent of the racists are christian.
The “Chinese” one, I’m seeing it more and more from western reviewers.
So long as you’re equal opportunity with your hate it’s good to go.
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That is where you are at
Literally buying this game right now to support them, looks like a game I’d enjoy too which is a bonus
Props to the dev. Fuck em.
“Also has Muslims”
Isn’t that the case for most modern FPS games? Is it only an issue when you don’t kill them?
Hey look, free publicity! Based Dev.
Great responses from the dev. Steam moderation really needs an overhaul, whichever moderators or automated systems that are in place really don’t do a good job. There’s a lot of hate in reviews and Steam discussions that should just lead to people’s accounts being permanently muted across the platform and preferably in games too where possible.
Steam forums are overrun by Russian propaganda bots.
“Please include a trans flag for representation in your video game!” is obviously rage bait for incels that are on there. And let me tell you guys, there are a LOT of incels/nazis all over Steam.
All this to say, Valve REALLY needs to work on their moderation platform however they can. It is a dark spot on an otherwise good platform. (I don’t play multiplayer games, so I don’t know anything about their gambling habits to make a comment on.)
What a legend.
You know, as a vehicle to have the developers respond in that quippy manner, I’d support leaving those comments up (also shows not to pay attention to any other reviews they post).
This is where we are now?
C’mon, Valve has been extremely off hands in moderating their platform since day one. It’s a problem, especially since their business model is to provide people value for using their service over DRM-free and piracy options.
Let’s comment this exact same shit under every single Christian game in the market.
“Sorry I just don’t agree with their immoral lifestyle.”
“Eww this is pushing too many hateful Christian ideals. Not recommended.”
Everywhere.
I unironically want to see reviews like this. I don’t want to bother with anything more religious than Doom.
Yeah, as the days go by, I think by now it is just time to start using fire against fire. “This game is too woke - 1 hour played” on CoD or Battlefield just to make a point on how stupid their opinions are.
in this case it seems like they were pretty hands on since they intervened specifically to override the developer removing the comment
Good to know Valve is on record as defending islamophobia. Should align with the views of many of their current game customers.
Have you been to their forums? They tolerate and defend much worse than that review.
I just see it as defending free speech
That raises the question of whether or not this is free speech, though. Free speech doesn’t require that we tolerate intolerance.
What does leaving this review up harm? Are you afraid a Muslim person would read it and be offended? That might actually be a useful review for some people, as they might like the things this person hates.
I dont see the harm in this. From what I can read they said “also has Muslims.” That tells me the game has Muslims, and that the reviewer doesnt like Muslims. Maybe I like Muslims, and want to see what thats about.
More specifically, they wrote “Also has Muslims… No one is asking for this type of stuff.” At least that’s how it is in the OP screenshot, though a screenshot in another comment doesn’t have the second part.
Though I agree that leaving that clown show up is useful.
The game is little rocket lab and actually looks like something I want to try. Can’t wait to get it just so I can enjoy a good game and leave a review that I checked it all out because the dev is based and shoots down bigots.
Imagine spending your time doing this stupid shit and then thinking you’re not a loser.
I sincerely think a larger part of those are just bots fanning the flames. People go on and on about not wanting to see politics in this and that, but fail to realize that they are being conditioned to see red on anything other than what they look like or believe in, which then makes them comment political dumb takes on anything and everything they can.
insert “This car is woke” meme here
Gabe is speedrunning the Musk Campaign…. First brainchips and now Nazi enabling on his platform.
Just another fucked up billionaire to add to the chopping block.
Yeah bro…
Gabe probably immediately parked his regular yacht into his giant yacht and sprinted to a fucking PC to answer this report himself…
He 100% needs to redistribute the wealth he’s amassed, but acting like he personally supports nazis because of this doesn’t make any logical sense.
