• Deceptichum@quokk.au
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    2 days ago

    And yet in every instance of AEML, the state never withers it only abuses its authority over the people.

    Give me voluntary collaboration over top-down dictation any day. At the end of the day, we need a non-hierarchical stateless society that works for mutual aid, and you cannot get there with the statism trap.

    • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 day ago

      Trust me bro, the state will go away any day. Just one more expansion of power. Come on bro just one more political purge and we’ll give it up before we die.

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      The state in AES exists as one that cannot help but wither, as economic compulsion towards continued collectivization of production and distribution, and thus the erasure of class and thus the state. However, in the context of a worldwide system dominated by capitalist countries like the US Empire, the state cannot really progress beyond that point to a fully withered status. What’s necessary is the achievement of global socialism, and then a gradual period of further collectivization of all production and distribution, and eventually the state will complete its withering.

      The state in AES countries has brought democratization and dramatic improvements in quality of life for the working classes. The working classes, by controlling the state, wield it against fascists, capitalists, landlords, etc domestically, and protect themselves from imperialists internationally. Every single AES country has had to deal with western countries sanctioning, bombing, torturing, slaughtering, even committing genocide in some cases, but it is through the strength of the working classes and the systems they built that they last through this.