• dohpaz42@lemmy.world
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    To further this person’s sentiment, thick skin does not mean protection from damage. Put a couple of drinking glasses in a leather satchel and as hard as you can hit it with a baseball bat a few times. I would wager the satchel will be fine (at least on the outside), but the glasses will be shattered on the inside. If anything, trauma makes you really good at hiding the damage; not protecting you from it.

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    Having thick skin isn’t a superpower. It just makes you less sensitive to both positive and negative emotions. Either way there is damage that needs to be healed.

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      There’s a lot of options, but basically no adaptation to extremely fucked shit that isn’t alienating, that doesn’t put you apart from people in some way, or read as damage in itself. Kind of the nature of it. You’re built for different stuff than the rest now-or you’re not, and there’s nothing left.

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    Let’s not forget those of us who had a thick skin (from it) because there was still hope in our hearts that the parade of fuckery couldn’t possibly be “normal”, much less get worse

    Now we’re rattled, fried, cross-wired, and taped together in spite of it all. Like abandoned mining dynamite in the movies. No real fuse left, and a paper-thin wrapper with illegible instructions around a heart that might be as much a dud as take out a city block with a stray spark.

    Whee. Let’s hang out in a crate until our collective purpose happens along! 🤣😶

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      Fuck I thought it was just me whose lost resilience. Is this a process that happens often? Why is this even possible?

      People in my life been trying to tell me I was just bitch-made the whole time and I’m starting to believe them

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        I can only speak from experience, but I’m willing to bet that “bitch-made” is low-effort projection on their part, NGL. 🤌🏼

        FWIW, I’ve nearly died/been killed ~7x now, IIRC, and I’m fully fragile AF these days.

        While still unreliably heroic in short bursts (like dwarves hunting uruk across the steppe), there’s a hefty non-zero chance that my internal Not Today, Death engine sputters & chokes at the starting line, too. Might even need a flatbed to get to triage. 🤪

        No one’s journey is anyone else’s, and those that would judge you for yours in times like these? They’re cowards, and trying to shift the blame to you for how terrified they are that they’d never be able to endure what you’re going through. You can pity them, or tell them to fuck off. Regardless, you’re still a motherfuckin’ badass for sticking with it. 🤘🏼❤️‍🔥 Don’t suffer the backbirths. You’re better than that.

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          Thanks Otter. Just knowing it’s plausible helps me string together a through-line that tracks with my experience as I remember it. There’s a realistic narrative missing from my culture about what a man should do after devastation so I appreciate hearing people talk about it in ways that don’t include caricatures of cowardice.

          So, so thanks for still being alive to speak your truth. 🤘

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    What doesn’t kill you just rewires your brain to go into overdrive with panic at the slightest thought of anything even remotely resembling it.

    Makes you stronger.

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    It’s also survivorship bias, like a lot of the people that didn’t develop thick skins didn’t make it.

    And the ones that did usually had people around them providing some love and support while they rebuilt their damaged self-esteem.

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    I saw someone trying to pep talk a misanthrope (lmao) recently pull out the 'ol survivorship bias stank and blah blah many paragraphs, but what stood out to me was a common saying:

    they fall down, they break, they get up

    Makes my skin crawl, disgusts me. “They get up” fucking hell, so many do not at all ever again. Or if they do it’s with permanent damage. I don’t just mean humans either, all life. Extinction rates back me up.

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    I haven’t experienced what I would describe as “trauma” but I definitely feel like I’ve become more fragile as I’ve gone through life.

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    History written by the victors, or in this case, those who came out stronger. “My experience was xyz, therefore it’s everyone’s experience.”

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    “Under pressure, you don’t rise to the occasion, you sink to the level of your training” -Bruce Lee or some Greek nerd or some shit

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    Yah, the thick skin may be armor, but it shuts you off from so much. Some, some, of the bad stuff is easier to survive, but all the good out there has just as much trouble getting in.

    I don’t think any given trauma recovery paradigm is without a lopsided benefit/drawback ratio. You’re left with scars, period.