Do the rules specify that Joe must resolve any and all affairs in three business days?
Umm, no. You have yearly deadlines for things that you have to renew. Typically there’s a decent grace period and only a small fine if you fall out of compliance. It’s pretty easy for most stuff.
Ah, unlike every company where Claire is working for forty years despite pissing off every newbie with her slow and tedious ways. Whose side will the employer take, Karen Nobody’s who’s complaining or Joe’s who’s been at his position for years and knows all the ins and outs and who’s a second cousin once removed to the department chief? Reeeeealllly unfamiliar with the system there, the ones who say otherwise.
You can write fiction all day if you want to. Doesn’t change reality.
Still unclear as to how legislature is gonna legislate Joe out of his position.
They’re his boss at the end of the line. Anyway it’s not usually about firing Joe, it’s about getting the job done. Joe’s supervisor should fire him if he’s not doing his job. If it gets really bad the legislature could force the head of the agency to start firing people. Usually not necessary, but it’s doable.
What incentive does the head of the agency have to fire employees who have tons of experience in their positions? Is it like Trump firing everyone who disagrees with his views? Oh wait, this is precisely the argument that you tried to use in a rebuttal to me.
This isn’t even a coherent argument, nor what my point was at all. You asked who was appointed and I told you.
I’ll try to follow what you’re saying anyway. So in your mind these are extremely expirenced and invaluable employees, but also don’t do their jobs? Yeah that doesn’t make any sense
I don’t know why and what you’re doing with the government every day
I recieve mail through a government agency. Every year I pay my taxes, register my car, etc. For tax payments I deal with federal, state, and local. Everything else is just the normal stuff that comes up in life. Getting a marriage certificate, renewing a license, moving states causes re-registration, getting a passport.
All of these things were just simple and done correctly. Why would I want to pay a bribe instead of working with a functional system?
“a phone call and an email” is more privilege than most people in the US have.
It’s really not. Takes like 2 minutes to lookup your local government’s info. Frankly the percentage of people without internet access or phone access is very very low (thanks in part to government programs). Plus you can always go to city hall or the council meetings.
Umm, no. You have yearly deadlines for things that you have to renew. Typically there’s a decent grace period and only a small fine if you fall out of compliance. It’s pretty easy for most stuff.
Then what the hell are you talking about, solving your problems? Joe doesn’t give a shit.
You can write fiction all day if you want to. Doesn’t change reality.
Oooh yeah. “You’re wrong and I’m right” defense, amazing. Someone who’s never encountered anyone working in a big company, reporting for duty at online bickering. Doesn’t know a single thing about how it works in a large corporation or in bureaucracy, but is full of opinions. Gewd jerb there.
Joe’s supervisor should fire him if he’s not doing his job. If it gets really bad the legislature could force the head of the agency to start firing people.
Oh sure, the supervisor is gonna surely take your side, whom they talk to for a couple minutes, instead of Joe’s whom they knew for ten years. Delusion is really strong with this one.
They’re his boss at the end of the line. Anyway it’s not usually about firing Joe, it’s about getting the job done. Joe’s supervisor should fire him if he’s not doing his job.
Again, are you imagining the legislature adopting laws like ‘Fire Joe Schmuck from his job at the DMV’? Are you actually familiar with any single law ever passed by the legislature in the history of the legislature, or are you entirely fanfictioning it from your delusions?
in your mind these are extremely expirenced and invaluable employees, but also don’t do their jobs? Yeah that doesn’t make any sense
This displays how you never ever worked or dealt with an established employee at any long-standing job whatsoever. You’re completely ignorant as to how long-standing employees can both have invaluable working experience, and display profound disdain for their customers. Absolute zero of your life experience is at all valuable at any jobs that require any skills gained at work.
Every year I pay my taxes, register my car, etc. For tax payments I deal with federal, state, and local.
Oh look at Mr. Government Participation here. They pay their federal, state, and local, amazing. They register their car every year. This will surely get them an audience with their council member, indubitably. Unlike everyone else in their twenty-thousand Karens town. They will complain about Joe Schmoe and will indubitably listened to by Jack Jackson.
It’s really not. Takes like 2 minutes to lookup your local government’s info. Plus you can always go to city hall or the council meetings.
Again, if you can dial your council boy and say “Hey this Joe Schmoe is being a trouble, could you ditch him” and hear anything other than the busy tone at the other end, then you’re the whitest cracker to ever exist, and apparently your council man is really really poor if they do this for less than a hundred dollars.
Oooh yeah. “You’re wrong and I’m right” defense, amazing. Someone who’s never encountered anyone working in a big company, reporting for duty at online bickering. Doesn’t know a single thing about how it works in a large corporation or in bureaucracy, but is full of opinions. Gewd jerb there.
We can make up scenarios all day where someone doesn’t do there job, but thus far the system works. So stop being out of touch with reality?
Oh sure, the supervisor is gonna surely take your side, whom they talk to for a couple minutes, instead of Joe’s whom they knew for ten years. Delusion is really strong with this one.
You gotta stop thinking of this as a one off. No I don’t expect Joe to be fired on the spot, never said I did. If he’s consistently failing to do his job he will be fired.
Again, are you imagining the legislature adopting laws like ‘Fire Joe Schmuck from his job at the DMV’? Are you actually familiar with any single law ever passed by the legislature in the history of the legislature, or are you entirely fanfictioning it from your delusions?
I’ve explained about 4 times how the system works. Maybe don’t be so fucking dense? If you want me to explain again drop the insults (I’ll do the same) and we can try again.
This displays how you never ever worked or dealt with an established employee at any long-standing job whatsoever. You’re completely ignorant as to how long-standing employees can both have invaluable working experience, and display profound disdain for their customers. Absolute zero of your life experience is at all valuable at any jobs that require any skills gained at work.
This is not a coherent argument. I used your own words. This is what you stated not me. You clearly have no understanding how government employment functions.
Oh look at Mr. Government Participation here. They pay their federal, state, and local, amazing. They register their car every year. This will surely get them an audience with their council member, indubitably. Unlike everyone else in their twenty-thousand Karens town. They will complain about Joe Schmoe and will indubitably listened to by Jack Jackson.
This isn’t what you fucking asked. You wanted to know why I deal with the government so much I answered. If you cared about a consistent argument you’d realize that having to slide a hundo each time to get these things processed would be expensive.
And yes I would easily get the help of a city councilman that’s how these things work. They’re not that busy because the system works.
Again, if you can dial your council boy and say “Hey this Joe Schmoe is being a trouble, could you ditch him” and hear anything other than the busy tone at the other end, then you’re the whitest cracker to ever exist, and apparently your council man is really really poor if they do this for less than a hundred dollars.
You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding. I don’t give a fuck if Joe has his job, and I’m not calling my city to get Joe fired. I’m calling to get whatever paperwork I have processed. Like I don’t know why you’ve become obsessed with Joe being fired, but I could care less.
If Joe is not doing his job eventually he will be fired or shuffled to a department where he can’t keep fucking up.
You seem to have entirely forgotten the argument and are now obsessed with getting Joe fired which was never the point. The point was would it be better to have to bribe officials. Which is just ridiculous to suggest when we have a functional system.
Umm, no. You have yearly deadlines for things that you have to renew. Typically there’s a decent grace period and only a small fine if you fall out of compliance. It’s pretty easy for most stuff.
You can write fiction all day if you want to. Doesn’t change reality.
They’re his boss at the end of the line. Anyway it’s not usually about firing Joe, it’s about getting the job done. Joe’s supervisor should fire him if he’s not doing his job. If it gets really bad the legislature could force the head of the agency to start firing people. Usually not necessary, but it’s doable.
This isn’t even a coherent argument, nor what my point was at all. You asked who was appointed and I told you.
I’ll try to follow what you’re saying anyway. So in your mind these are extremely expirenced and invaluable employees, but also don’t do their jobs? Yeah that doesn’t make any sense
I recieve mail through a government agency. Every year I pay my taxes, register my car, etc. For tax payments I deal with federal, state, and local. Everything else is just the normal stuff that comes up in life. Getting a marriage certificate, renewing a license, moving states causes re-registration, getting a passport.
All of these things were just simple and done correctly. Why would I want to pay a bribe instead of working with a functional system?
It’s really not. Takes like 2 minutes to lookup your local government’s info. Frankly the percentage of people without internet access or phone access is very very low (thanks in part to government programs). Plus you can always go to city hall or the council meetings.
Then what the hell are you talking about, solving your problems? Joe doesn’t give a shit.
Oooh yeah. “You’re wrong and I’m right” defense, amazing. Someone who’s never encountered anyone working in a big company, reporting for duty at online bickering. Doesn’t know a single thing about how it works in a large corporation or in bureaucracy, but is full of opinions. Gewd jerb there.
Oh sure, the supervisor is gonna surely take your side, whom they talk to for a couple minutes, instead of Joe’s whom they knew for ten years. Delusion is really strong with this one.
Again, are you imagining the legislature adopting laws like ‘Fire Joe Schmuck from his job at the DMV’? Are you actually familiar with any single law ever passed by the legislature in the history of the legislature, or are you entirely fanfictioning it from your delusions?
This displays how you never ever worked or dealt with an established employee at any long-standing job whatsoever. You’re completely ignorant as to how long-standing employees can both have invaluable working experience, and display profound disdain for their customers. Absolute zero of your life experience is at all valuable at any jobs that require any skills gained at work.
Oh look at Mr. Government Participation here. They pay their federal, state, and local, amazing. They register their car every year. This will surely get them an audience with their council member, indubitably. Unlike everyone else in their twenty-thousand Karens town. They will complain about Joe Schmoe and will indubitably listened to by Jack Jackson.
Again, if you can dial your council boy and say “Hey this Joe Schmoe is being a trouble, could you ditch him” and hear anything other than the busy tone at the other end, then you’re the whitest cracker to ever exist, and apparently your council man is really really poor if they do this for less than a hundred dollars.
We can make up scenarios all day where someone doesn’t do there job, but thus far the system works. So stop being out of touch with reality?
You gotta stop thinking of this as a one off. No I don’t expect Joe to be fired on the spot, never said I did. If he’s consistently failing to do his job he will be fired.
I’ve explained about 4 times how the system works. Maybe don’t be so fucking dense? If you want me to explain again drop the insults (I’ll do the same) and we can try again.
This is not a coherent argument. I used your own words. This is what you stated not me. You clearly have no understanding how government employment functions.
This isn’t what you fucking asked. You wanted to know why I deal with the government so much I answered. If you cared about a consistent argument you’d realize that having to slide a hundo each time to get these things processed would be expensive.
And yes I would easily get the help of a city councilman that’s how these things work. They’re not that busy because the system works.
You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding. I don’t give a fuck if Joe has his job, and I’m not calling my city to get Joe fired. I’m calling to get whatever paperwork I have processed. Like I don’t know why you’ve become obsessed with Joe being fired, but I could care less.
If Joe is not doing his job eventually he will be fired or shuffled to a department where he can’t keep fucking up.
You seem to have entirely forgotten the argument and are now obsessed with getting Joe fired which was never the point. The point was would it be better to have to bribe officials. Which is just ridiculous to suggest when we have a functional system.
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Cool we’re doing racism now, well this was a complete waste of my time.
Enjoy paying Joe to renew your license I guess