A New York subway rider has accused a woman of breaking his Meta smart glasses. She was later hailed as a hero.

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    Yeah, but usually you know you’re being recorded because you can see the recording device. I think it’s fair to film in public, but not secretly.

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      Why does secretly matter? Unless they’re peeping under a skirt. It’s not “spying” - you’re in public.

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        If you know you’re being filmed, you usually modify your behavior accordingly. You can actively participate in whatever’s being filmed, double-check your posture, cover your face and walk away, etc. Not everyone wants their image spread online, so it’s important to give people the opportunity to avoid being filmed.

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          Clearly she did know she was being filmed but thats besides the points. 1: you’re nearly always being filmed in public.

          My point is you’re not being spied on if you’re in public. Grown ass adult crying “stop looking at me!!!”

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        Why do you care if you have nothing to hide is a weak argument that’s been used to erode our rights. Fuck off.

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          Dumb fuck, you dont have a “right” to privacy in public. Also i never said that you fucking moron. Have fun fighting imaginary arguments in an empty room.

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            You absolutely do, and even the Supreme Court has sided that you have some expectation of privacy. Blanket “you don’t have a right to privacy” is why I’m calling you a dumbass. The EFF even agrees with me.

            I don’t know what empty rooms you’re in, but I’m not surprised I guess given the kind of creep you are.

            EFF article

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              You should try reading that article yourself, which is about aggregated, long-term tracking (like GPS data or ALPR networks) and persistent surveillance over time, which is very different from the moment-to-moment visibility you have on a train.

              Damn dude, you look really fucking stupid here, do you want to try again?

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                Actually you’re the one looking fucking stupid, here.

                The idea that we don’t have the right to privacy in public was first argued in regards to legitimate use of cameras in public and when a video maker does (or doesn’t) need to get your permission.

                If you’re caught on camera incidentally during a news story about a house fire. Or you’re in the background of a surveillance tape of a robbery they’re showing on the news. Or traffic cameras, or cop dash cams. Legitimate uses where public interest is a priority.

                If a filmmaker is shooting a scene on location (for an example of the other direction), and they happen to catch some members of the public, they need to get those people to sign a consent form, or else they can’t use the footage. This is the law, I believe, EVERYWHERE that has ever argued this in court.

                So yes, while there are legitimate reasons that a person’s privacy is considered able to be suspended (such as news in the public interest), contributing to some incel’s spank-bank isn’t one of those reasons. And you’re a fucking idiot if you don’t grasp that concept.

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                  You couldn’t be more wrong. You’re conflating commercial image rights, public interest reporting, and actual privacy rights. You can be filmed in public all day legally; you just might not be able to sell your image commercially without a release. Public visibility doesn’t give you privacy - that’s why cops, traffic cams, and news footage can film you legally. Filmmakers needing consent is about commercial exploitation of someone’s image, not a magic ‘right to not be seen.’ And just because some uses are gross doesn’t suddenly create a legal privacy right. Public exposure ≠ privacy. Period. Oh, and fucking idiot = you.

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                So you agree you have a right to privacy in public? How are you soooo close to getting it and then losing the fucking plot.

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                  jesus christ your ego can’t let you admit you’re wrong. What a fucking clown you are lol. No you do not “have a right to privacy in public” and thats a stupid thing to say, and you are stupid for dying on this hill. What a fucking loser