Hundreds of Porsche cars across Russia have shut down after a Vehicle Tracking System failure caused engine lockouts. Here’s what happened, which models are affected, and what owners can do next.
Why not do cars need internet access in order to start?
I understand having auxiliary services the network connected but surely the failure mode should just be an error on the screen but otherwise the car should still function. It’s not like operating without internet access is dangerous or anything.
Also, why don’t we just do that, cut Russias internet access, it seems like it would cause utter chaos.
As for “cut russias internet”, I imagine they have a lot of services hosted on their own infrastructure within Russia.
Of course probably a lot of people use western services like social media and e-commerce. Which would piss off a lot of Russian people. So you could have western governments require sanctions on services to reject Russian traffic.
One of the downsides though is there are probably a lot of people who disagree with the regime and want to get info in and out. You push them closer to isolation like North Korea. So called “winning of hearts and minds” might be better served by keeping things open.
Because it was the anti theft system and immobilizer.
It would be pretty useless if it could be defeated by putting some foil on the antenna so that it loses network connection and defaulted to allowing you to drive.
With your personal vehicle access device, aka, the car key. Immobilizers with transponders in the key have been a thing (and in some places a legal requirement) for like three decades.
They’ve just gotten more aggressive now with “keyless” entry and being able to use your phone as your key, so some validate that info in real time - no network, no access. (Up to a point. They won’t immediately strand you just because you ran out of cell coverage obviously, but apparently Porsche did enforce some part of their system to that point)
Why not do cars need internet access in order to start?
I understand having auxiliary services the network connected but surely the failure mode should just be an error on the screen but otherwise the car should still function. It’s not like operating without internet access is dangerous or anything.
Also, why don’t we just do that, cut Russias internet access, it seems like it would cause utter chaos.
As for “cut russias internet”, I imagine they have a lot of services hosted on their own infrastructure within Russia.
Of course probably a lot of people use western services like social media and e-commerce. Which would piss off a lot of Russian people. So you could have western governments require sanctions on services to reject Russian traffic.
One of the downsides though is there are probably a lot of people who disagree with the regime and want to get info in and out. You push them closer to isolation like North Korea. So called “winning of hearts and minds” might be better served by keeping things open.
But what do I know.
It’s the reason why no one steals Teslas. Easy to brick, impossible to charge on their system if stolen.
Because it was the anti theft system and immobilizer.
It would be pretty useless if it could be defeated by putting some foil on the antenna so that it loses network connection and defaulted to allowing you to drive.
How does it validate that you are a valid driver? Do you enter a PIN or something?
With your personal vehicle access device, aka, the car key. Immobilizers with transponders in the key have been a thing (and in some places a legal requirement) for like three decades.
They’ve just gotten more aggressive now with “keyless” entry and being able to use your phone as your key, so some validate that info in real time - no network, no access. (Up to a point. They won’t immediately strand you just because you ran out of cell coverage obviously, but apparently Porsche did enforce some part of their system to that point)
Yeah, I’ve seen videos of Porsches needing to be towed out of parking garages because there is no cell signal underground.