For years the plan was to make this scanning mandatory. In early November 2025, however, the Danish government amended the text: scanning is now “voluntary” for individual EU states to decide upon. That small word change was enough for the 27 EU countries to agree on November 26.
If chat control would have been made mandatory, you can bet (and i’d be willing to bet a lot of money on it) that you’re going to have AfD in germany and FPÖ in austria (since they’re already pretty anti-EU) making a lot of noise about how evil the EU is for infringing on people’s privacy. (And they would be right about this, as much as i don’t like to agree with them.) This would give them more votes, than they already have.
Making it voluntary is a clever trick of the EU to not make yourself extremely unpopular among the population. Well done, i’d say.
Is there something we can do to effectively oppose that shit ?
misleading headline, this isn’t a list of countries in which the law will (if it passes) be different (it won’t be, it’s an EU law, so will be the same in all EU countries), it’s a list of countries that currently support/oppose the law
It isn’t misleading (that’d be a technically true headline, which this isn’t). This is a downright lie, or as some might say, “fake news”.
Wow, this is bad. I thought this was over when Germany chose not to support it. Apparently not!
Show is not over until the fat lady sings.
Countries which support the implementation of Chat Control:
Spain, Romania, Portugal, Malta Lithuania, Hungary, Ireland, France, Denmark, Croatia, Cyprus, and Bulgaria.
Countries that are undecided:
Belgium, Greece, Italy, Latvia, Slovakia, and Sweden.
Countries which oppose Chat Control:
Slovenia, the Netherlands, Poland, Luxembourg, Germany, Estonia, Finland, the Czech Republic, and Austria
“This list is outdated, see here fightchatcontrol.eu”
I’m missing a bit the fact that this is not a law yet. This is the position of the commission, which the parliament will then need to approve and has to get past the ECHR as well most likely.
If this came to Canada, my sister and I will be using Briar.
It’s kind of unclear what “voluntary” means. Is it voluntary for countries to enforce? Is it voluntary for companies to scan chats?
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The later. However, they could still be fines for not doing what is needed to reduce “the risks of the of the chat app”, whatever the fuck that can mean when talking about illegal.content
I thought it was the latter.
In that case, is there any change? Companies could already do that if they wanted. Many of them already did.
Welp guys, looks like I’m moving to [insert country without that sh*t] (TBD). Or atleast my router is.
The implementation is client-side, so this wouldn’t work. It forces all apps to have a client-side backdoor.
just use signal
Or Molly (alternative and more secure FOSS Android app for Signal), or Session or SimpleX.
And when they pull out of Europe because they won’t comply?
It is available in fdroid
won’t help when their servers block access from EU
Wow, you mean taking instant messenger suggestions from Republicans in the House of Representatives organizing gangbangs wasn’t a good idea?
Write your own E2E encrypted peer-to-peer chat app (nobody has got time for that) or use some that doesn’t care about the law (pretty risky if it’s not open source, I doubt they’ll survive for long in the open), I guess
