• mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
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    5 days ago

    see, this is an example of how it should be, instead of people who conflate “understanding motives” with “approving of motives”

    I couldn’t say the number of times I’ve been downvoted and shat upon for answering the question “what were they thinking / why did they do this?” with a plausible reason for somebody else’s actions. but it’s high enough to have pissed me off enough to mostly just hate people until they show me otherwise (among many other reasons) nowadays

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      4 days ago

      The question “what were they thinking […]” comes with the secret addendum of “[…] to justify this”.

      By answering the question posed you are justifying them at least in the mind of most people. Most people can see what they were thinking just fine. They are asking why that would justify their behaviour.

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        4 days ago

        yeah, it doesn’t, though. otherwise it would be asked. people making that assumption are dumb.

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          4 days ago

          This is what I am telling you. You are the person missing a generally agreed upon thing. That is not a judgement on your intelligence mind you.

          People usually do not need these kind of pointers, so they are left out. People always shorten things they assume to be implied.

          It is entirely fine to miss these things and some people do. Being surprised that people misinterpret your comments regularly should give you pause.

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            4 days ago

            I see your point. and I still disagree.

            just because many people are stupid, doesn’t mean it’s right. there’s also no way to know the ratio, and my experience indicates that most people agree with my perspective.

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              4 days ago

              Your experience according to yourself is such that people down vote you because they do not see it like you do. How does that influence your experience? Are you just throwing away all indicators that you might be wrong?

              I do not think you are dumb but I think your view on other people is clouded by the need to be right. I suffer of this as well but calling people dumb and never reflecting is not the way even if the alternative is hard.