Wait, of all the tech companies in the world, you specifically chose Apple for the “don’t want to throw perfectly good computers” line? The same Apple that every single year is routinely removing perfectly good computers from the newest MacOS compatibility list using same bullshit/fake requirements as Microsoft did with Windows 11?
“Don’t want to throw your 8 years old 7th gen Intel PC because Windows 10 is EOL? Buy a new Mac and throw it after 6-7 years when MacOS is EOL for your device!”
My 3rd generation iPad became functionally useless after only 6-7 years even though the hardware was pristine. Almost half of the apps on it, including some major ones like YouTube, started refusing to run because they had a mandatory Update, and the App Store wouldn’t provide updates for the newest iOS version that the 3rd gen could support.
Meanwhile my Windows laptop that I bought at the same time is still in service after 12 years. Windows going out of support just means you don’t get the security updates; Apple going out of support means they’ll brick your machine.
It is exactly why I’m an apple hater, as an owner of an iPad mini and Intel iMac. Both are basically bricks.
The iPad can’t even be used to browse websites because Apple it’s so magnanimous to tie browser updates to the operating system. Once the os is EOL, the browser is EOL, and all the third party browsers too, as Apple forces devs to use the system browser as engine (= Firefox, Chrome for iOS basically are glorified Safari skins). Apps for iOS almost all require the latest version and you can’t download a previous version unless you have a Time machine and you press download before the cutoff. Imagine on Android if apps required Android 15 and greater. Instead most of them can still run on Android 10 and even earlier.
The iMac, despite being a 4th gen Intel with dedicated AMD GPU, it’s also a brick. Every app (including Firefox, Chrome, etc) requires a recent MacOS version (here devs aren’t targeting latest and greatest, but still is annoying). Of course Apple still ties Safari updates on the operating system. Imagine on PC if apps required Windows 11 24H1. Because newer versions of MacOS don’t have the driver for my dedicated GPU, they can’t be tricked to install a newer version (I tried, it’s unbearable to use MacOS without GPU acceleration, with all that eye candy it’s a must have)
At least the iMac could run a different operating system… Debian shows a black screen and I would need an external monitor, Arch somehow turns off the USB ports on the back and I can’t use keyboard and mouse… I have to use Windows 10…
Yeah, but Apple has a history of doing that. They dropped support for Motorola chips in the PowerPC era. They dropped support for PowerPC chips in the Intel era. And they’ve started dropping Intel chips in the Apple Silicon era. They keep reinventing the Mac to stay current. Meanwhile, Windows supports stuff going way back regardless of it being updated to support the newest stuff. Except Microsoft decided to try a similar thing, but also kinda not really? I mean, you can run Windows 11 on 7th gen Intel (I was running it on a 4th gen Xeon), they just don’t want you to.
At least with Apple you know what you’re getting, and it’s a lot more secure and stable for it.
Besides, I wouldn’t expect someone with a perfectly good PC to throw it out and get a Mac. I’d suggest they run Linux instead. It’ll run better than Windows, too. But if your computer is dead, dying, or on its way there, I do suggest Mac as a perfectly good alternative.
No one’s really running computers for 20+ years, except the government. For whatever dumb ass reason.
Wait, of all the tech companies in the world, you specifically chose Apple for the “don’t want to throw perfectly good computers” line? The same Apple that every single year is routinely removing perfectly good computers from the newest MacOS compatibility list using same bullshit/fake requirements as Microsoft did with Windows 11?
“Don’t want to throw your 8 years old 7th gen Intel PC because Windows 10 is EOL? Buy a new Mac and throw it after 6-7 years when MacOS is EOL for your device!”
My 3rd generation iPad became functionally useless after only 6-7 years even though the hardware was pristine. Almost half of the apps on it, including some major ones like YouTube, started refusing to run because they had a mandatory Update, and the App Store wouldn’t provide updates for the newest iOS version that the 3rd gen could support.
Meanwhile my Windows laptop that I bought at the same time is still in service after 12 years. Windows going out of support just means you don’t get the security updates; Apple going out of support means they’ll brick your machine.
Fuck Apple to infinity.
It is exactly why I’m an apple hater, as an owner of an iPad mini and Intel iMac. Both are basically bricks.
The iPad can’t even be used to browse websites because Apple it’s so magnanimous to tie browser updates to the operating system. Once the os is EOL, the browser is EOL, and all the third party browsers too, as Apple forces devs to use the system browser as engine (= Firefox, Chrome for iOS basically are glorified Safari skins). Apps for iOS almost all require the latest version and you can’t download a previous version unless you have a Time machine and you press download before the cutoff. Imagine on Android if apps required Android 15 and greater. Instead most of them can still run on Android 10 and even earlier.
The iMac, despite being a 4th gen Intel with dedicated AMD GPU, it’s also a brick. Every app (including Firefox, Chrome, etc) requires a recent MacOS version (here devs aren’t targeting latest and greatest, but still is annoying). Of course Apple still ties Safari updates on the operating system. Imagine on PC if apps required Windows 11 24H1. Because newer versions of MacOS don’t have the driver for my dedicated GPU, they can’t be tricked to install a newer version (I tried, it’s unbearable to use MacOS without GPU acceleration, with all that eye candy it’s a must have)
At least the iMac could run a different operating system… Debian shows a black screen and I would need an external monitor, Arch somehow turns off the USB ports on the back and I can’t use keyboard and mouse… I have to use Windows 10…
Yeah, but Apple has a history of doing that. They dropped support for Motorola chips in the PowerPC era. They dropped support for PowerPC chips in the Intel era. And they’ve started dropping Intel chips in the Apple Silicon era. They keep reinventing the Mac to stay current. Meanwhile, Windows supports stuff going way back regardless of it being updated to support the newest stuff. Except Microsoft decided to try a similar thing, but also kinda not really? I mean, you can run Windows 11 on 7th gen Intel (I was running it on a 4th gen Xeon), they just don’t want you to.
At least with Apple you know what you’re getting, and it’s a lot more secure and stable for it.
Besides, I wouldn’t expect someone with a perfectly good PC to throw it out and get a Mac. I’d suggest they run Linux instead. It’ll run better than Windows, too. But if your computer is dead, dying, or on its way there, I do suggest Mac as a perfectly good alternative.
No one’s really running computers for 20+ years, except the government. For whatever dumb ass reason.