I encounter horses a lot when I’m hiking. I’m a backpacker, I’m often carrying a fairly large backpack to prepare for a trip. Horses get really spooked by it. You’d think that of all animals fucking horses would be able to understand the concept of carrying something on your back, but nope.
I also hear endless stories about horses being spooked by shit like plastic bags, leaves, fans, even the person riding on their back that they somehow forgot was there. How we ever managed to convince horses to ride into battle is beyond me. I can only assume that they were too fucking stupid to understand what was going on around them, because as far as I can tell if the Ottomans had just put a couple dudes in backpacks outside of Vienna, the Winged Hussars never would have been able to get near the city.
Also almost no one who has a horse ever actually seems to live anywhere that is actually conducive to owning, let alone riding a horse. Unless you’re rich and have a decent plot of land you have to pay some stable somewhere to let you keep your horse there, and odds are that it’s not particularly close to your house and if you want to actually ride that horse anywhere besides basically just going in circles around the yard at the stable, you’re going to need a gas guzzling truck and trailer to go take your horse somewhere else because actually riding a horse for transportation isn’t really a thing anymore in the developed world.
And of course, wherever your keeping those horses is going to be worthless trampled down dirt and grass and such instead of trees, shrubs, wildflowers, etc. that are actually good for the environment.
Horse riders don’t pick up after their horses, and they jump through so many mental hoops trying to justify it you’d think they’re trying to do a whole show jumping competition but forgot to bring the horse they’re trying to justify.
If nothing else, it’s unsightly and not part of nature. We don’t have horses in this part of the world, they haven’t existed here in the wild since before the last ice age, I shouldn’t be seeing horse crap around.
I don’t care if it’s biodegradable and doesn’t stink like dog shit, and doesn’t carry diseases (which is horseshit, there is absolutely bacteria is horse dropping and there’s no reason it can’t carry communicable diseases) I don’t throw banana peels and apple cores around in the woods either. Leave no trace, pack it in, pack it out.
And look, I’m not gonna pretend that my local parks are such delicate ecosystems that a little horse shit is going to throw things out of balance and cause an ecological disaster, but some environments are very delicate, and you really don’t want to be adding extra nitrogen or carbon or whatever into it if you can avoid it, and you should be using your best practices all around.
“Well we can’t carry a shovel with us to pick it up” like hell you can’t, that’s the reason humans started keeping horses in the first place. If people could ride around in a suit of armor, with a bedroll, food, water, a sword, a rifle, etc you can find a way to carry a little avalanche shovel and a trash bag with you.
“Well it’s not always safe to get on and off the horse on the trail” well then maybe you shouldn’t be riding a horse on that fucking trail then.
Riding horses into battle is really tricky. For cavellery horses, basically you have to keep riding towards a crowd with the horse. During training, the crowd is your accomplice, and as soon as the horse approaches, everyone in the path of the horse steps out of the way.
You do that over and over, until the horse is confident that the humans will always step out of the way.
Once the horse is confident enough, it will be willing to go faster. You keep training the horse, until it can truly charge quickly.
Then finally, if there is a real battle, you can use all uour trained horses, to charge once. Any horse that gets even slightly hurt during the charge, will likely never trust you again. Because humans fucking suck, and can’t be trusted.
I feel like the fact that you used the term “feral” and put quotes around “wild” shows that you already understand that that’s a bullshit argument.
They’re also not everywhere in the Americas by a longshot, they’re certainly not in my neck of the woods.
Feral ≠ wild. Feral horses shouldn’t be considered the same as the wild horses that once existed in the Americas any more than domesticated dogs should be considered the same as a grey wolf, or feral swine as actual wild boars.
And at any rate it has been around 12,000 years since the last truly wild American horse existed, they’re no more a part of the modern environment than wooly mammoths are.
Horses kind of suck
I encounter horses a lot when I’m hiking. I’m a backpacker, I’m often carrying a fairly large backpack to prepare for a trip. Horses get really spooked by it. You’d think that of all animals fucking horses would be able to understand the concept of carrying something on your back, but nope.
I also hear endless stories about horses being spooked by shit like plastic bags, leaves, fans, even the person riding on their back that they somehow forgot was there. How we ever managed to convince horses to ride into battle is beyond me. I can only assume that they were too fucking stupid to understand what was going on around them, because as far as I can tell if the Ottomans had just put a couple dudes in backpacks outside of Vienna, the Winged Hussars never would have been able to get near the city.
Also almost no one who has a horse ever actually seems to live anywhere that is actually conducive to owning, let alone riding a horse. Unless you’re rich and have a decent plot of land you have to pay some stable somewhere to let you keep your horse there, and odds are that it’s not particularly close to your house and if you want to actually ride that horse anywhere besides basically just going in circles around the yard at the stable, you’re going to need a gas guzzling truck and trailer to go take your horse somewhere else because actually riding a horse for transportation isn’t really a thing anymore in the developed world.
And of course, wherever your keeping those horses is going to be worthless trampled down dirt and grass and such instead of trees, shrubs, wildflowers, etc. that are actually good for the environment.
Horse riders don’t pick up after their horses, and they jump through so many mental hoops trying to justify it you’d think they’re trying to do a whole show jumping competition but forgot to bring the horse they’re trying to justify.
If nothing else, it’s unsightly and not part of nature. We don’t have horses in this part of the world, they haven’t existed here in the wild since before the last ice age, I shouldn’t be seeing horse crap around.
I don’t care if it’s biodegradable and doesn’t stink like dog shit, and doesn’t carry diseases (which is horseshit, there is absolutely bacteria is horse dropping and there’s no reason it can’t carry communicable diseases) I don’t throw banana peels and apple cores around in the woods either. Leave no trace, pack it in, pack it out.
And look, I’m not gonna pretend that my local parks are such delicate ecosystems that a little horse shit is going to throw things out of balance and cause an ecological disaster, but some environments are very delicate, and you really don’t want to be adding extra nitrogen or carbon or whatever into it if you can avoid it, and you should be using your best practices all around.
“Well we can’t carry a shovel with us to pick it up” like hell you can’t, that’s the reason humans started keeping horses in the first place. If people could ride around in a suit of armor, with a bedroll, food, water, a sword, a rifle, etc you can find a way to carry a little avalanche shovel and a trash bag with you.
“Well it’s not always safe to get on and off the horse on the trail” well then maybe you shouldn’t be riding a horse on that fucking trail then.
Horses and horse-people kind of suck.
Riding horses into battle is really tricky. For cavellery horses, basically you have to keep riding towards a crowd with the horse. During training, the crowd is your accomplice, and as soon as the horse approaches, everyone in the path of the horse steps out of the way. You do that over and over, until the horse is confident that the humans will always step out of the way. Once the horse is confident enough, it will be willing to go faster. You keep training the horse, until it can truly charge quickly. Then finally, if there is a real battle, you can use all uour trained horses, to charge once. Any horse that gets even slightly hurt during the charge, will likely never trust you again. Because humans fucking suck, and can’t be trusted.
Right but, do you like horses?
Umm we do have feral horses here. So there are "wild* horses in the Americas
I feel like the fact that you used the term “feral” and put quotes around “wild” shows that you already understand that that’s a bullshit argument.
They’re also not everywhere in the Americas by a longshot, they’re certainly not in my neck of the woods.
Feral ≠ wild. Feral horses shouldn’t be considered the same as the wild horses that once existed in the Americas any more than domesticated dogs should be considered the same as a grey wolf, or feral swine as actual wild boars.
And at any rate it has been around 12,000 years since the last truly wild American horse existed, they’re no more a part of the modern environment than wooly mammoths are.
I fucking hate Horse.
Stupid ass long faced dogs