I don’t really know who to talk to right now and posting here seems a good idea.

So, like the title says, I think my marriage is over. For context: Me (F42) and my wife have been married for 9 years. We got married not even a year into our relationship and I had no idea back then that I had ADHD. Did we get married too soon? Yes and no. The problems didn’t really start until around year 5, so even if we had gotten married after, say, three years, the outcome would have been the same.

Around two and a half years ago my wife suggested that I may have ADHD after things had started getting worse and worse. But although I was open to the idea it took me a year to get off my butt and get diagnosed and start treatment. Precious time that I wasted.

Now I’ve been on meds for a year and in therapy for around 9 months. Some things have gotten better but the core problem remains: My wife feels responsible for everything, is shouldering pretty much all the mental load and I seem to be unable to become the reliable adult partner that she needs. ADHD or the way I handle it has completely eroded our marriage and the love we had between us. My wife feels exhausted and trapped and I feel helpless because I feel like I maybe moved up a level or two in my “adulting skills” but I’d need to be a Level 10 to make our marriage work. Or make any marriage work, for that matter.

I feel extremely sad. I feel sad about the suffering I have caused my wife, who really tried to stick it out. Probably longer than she should have for her own good. Sad because I’ve been trying really hard and I see some people who have ADHD but who also seem to have an “overachiever personality” and they have their shit together so much more than I do. Sad because I wasted a whole year doing nothing. Sad because we used to be so happy together and used to love each other so much and now all that seems to be left is bitterness and resentment.

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Edit: Thank you so much to everyone who has has already commented and shared kind words with me.

My wife and I have been going over this many many times. I know what she needs and I am trying and a feel fucking sad about the fact that, maybe, we just can’t make it work. But I also realize I’m starting to reach a point where being on my own is beginning to sound liberating. I’ve never had a problem with being single and I feel like at least then there isn’t anyone I can disappoint anymore. It’s just me and if I fuck up the only person having to face the consequences is me.

I just feel really bad because I feel I have cost my wife so much. She would have wanted to have kids and I’ve always been on the fence about it. I used to absolutely not want to have kids when we met, then kinda came around to the idea (when you’re super in love it does become a kinda wonderful idea) but then gradually starting feeling more and more uncertain. And now I’m at a point where, regardless of whether or not I want to have kids (I don’t have a desire to have them but could imagine having them) I don’t think I’m capable of raising kids. If we had broken up sooner my wife might have had a better chance at having kids with someone else.

I’d be lying if I said I haven’t been feeling awful myself. I feel like I’m under constant pressure because I want to “prove myself” and the more I worry about fucking up the more tense I get. The best moment of the day is when I go to bed because then I don’t have to do anything for the next 8 hours, just rest and sleep. Can’t mistakey if not awakey :P

And our relationship has been deteriorating for so long and we’ve both become so fed up with each other. My wife is fed up with me because I’m not who she needs me to be and I’m fed up with her because I feel like even if I try to manage something myself, take care of something myself, I don’t do it the right way. Sometimes it really isn’t (last week I almost set the oven on fire) but sometimes it’s just a minor thing.

Maybe, as sad as it is, we’re better off apart and would be happier on own own / with someone else.

  • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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    I’m late here, but you need technology, friend.

    This for example:

    But when there’s mold starting to grow between the tiles in the bathroom I probably won’t notice it for a long time and, once I do notice it, ignore it :P

    Or, it took me over a year to finally get rid of our broken washing machine. My wife has asked me to take care of it and I said I would but then months passed and nothing happened.

    Set reminders on your phone. Get it to NAG you. You don’t have to do this stuff immediately, but trust me, setting the reminder is doable.

    Default calendar apps are good, but there are more complex notification systems you can use as well.


    Sometimes it really isn’t (last week I almost set the oven on fire)

    For big events like this, write it down in a journal. Then go back and read it every once in awhile; it keeps the mistakes ‘fresher’ in your brain.

    There are tons of little things like this, but basically, whenever you run into a failure, reach for a tool to compensate. Don’t just wish your brain can do everything by itself; it cannot.


    Maybe, as sad as it is, we’re better off apart and would be happier on own own / with someone else.

    Finally, I find its easy to be in a “negative trap” with ADHD. Make small positive improvements, like highlighted above, and consciously keep a more positive attitude.


    …Also, your SO should encourage you when improvements happen.

    If she doesn’t, talk to her about it. Express that you’re making these habitual improvements, and ask her give little bits of encouragement, to nag you about setting reminders; whatever you need. External praise (even in tiny amounts) is very important.

    And pure negativity is a trap.

    If she can’t stay positive about small improvements, that’s a problem. You two should talk about that in therapy, or at least have a deep, calm, planned chat about it.

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    Maybe use an LLM to read this…

    Edit: I did ask LLM to rewrite it so it is more understandable, for raw version see below:

    I’m in a similar situation, just with a 6-year-old child. Our relationship has gone through several cycles: things work for a while, her workload gets heavier, everything builds up, and eventually it becomes too much and we hit a crisis.

    After those moments, I try hard to stay organized and keep things running. But suddenly a week comes where I lose all structure, have no plan, things stay undone, and tasks pile up again.

    Last year I messed up by taking drugs at parties and not telling her. We’re not anti-drug in general, but the fact that I hid it caused her a lot of pain. Now I’m trying hard again, but since yesterday I’m feeling mild burnout symptoms. My opinions keep shifting too fast, so I struggle to express them clearly.

    I don’t know if this helps you directly, but you’re definitely not alone. Many couples with ADHD face the same pattern. I hope you don’t have financial stress, and maybe showing her how other ADHD couples struggle could help both of you feel less isolated. Just try not to use ADHD as a permission to give up — getting organized is hard, but staying organized is even harder.

    We’re planning to define our responsibilities clearly. We now use separate calendars so each of us knows exactly what they are responsible for. We’re still working on the household tasks too.

    What helps me is keeping one big “dump list” to capture everything — I use Apple Reminders. Then, at a regular time, I sort the tasks into categories (household, family, personal, hobby project, startup group) and rearrange them by priority. With this system, I can create time blocks for each category and simply work from the top down.

    Financially we also need changes. I thought my spending was controlled, but it wasn’t. So I’m planning an analysis of our expenses and will set up one main family account for income, plus two small accounts for ad-hoc spending (snacks, lunch, Pokémon cards, raves, etc.). Each month, a set amount will move from the main account to these smaller ones.

    Finally, I’ll organize my recurring household tasks in the reminder system too, so she won’t need to remind me anymore.

    😃✌🏻

    Raw:

    I am in a similar situation, but with a 6 year old child…

    With our relationship it happened multiple cycles so far

    Things kinda work, workload of her hets higher and higher and it builds up until it is too much and we have a situation

    After such situations i try hard to keep stuff going, in my mind, planned etc

    And suddenly there starts a week, where I have nonplan what I shoud do und things keep undone and task pile up again

    I fucked up last year by taking drugs at partys and did not tell her (we are both not anti-drugs per general, but I did not tell her) so now i have caused so much pain

    And bow i try hard again, but since yesterday I have weak burn-out symptoms again

    And I flip between different opinions, can’t say my explicit opinions, as they change too fast

    Ehh

    Well, I don’t really know how this could help you, but at least it shows, that you’re not alone, there are many many many people with exactly this same situation, more or less

    Hope you have no financial struggles, and maybe show her how others ADHS couples have same struggles

    Just try hard not to use it as permission to get lazy, it is hard to get organised, but way harder to stay organised

    I plan to define with her clearly who has which responsibilities and we have now not one shared calendar but one for each, so we can define responsibility for events clearly

    We are still working on the houshold topics and stuff

    But what I think really helps, is to have a list of stuff to remember to dumb everything in. For me it is an apple reminder list

    Than i have a regular time frame where I sort those task into categories (household, for family, for me, for my hobby project with friends, my startup group) and sort them by priority from top to bottom

    With having such list I now can create time frames that are mapped to each of those lists and when such a time frame comes i can just work from top to bottom

    Money wise, we need adjustments as well, because my spending seems controlled to me but turns out, is not. So here I will create an analysis on what spending we have and set up a main money storage for family spending where earned money flows in and two money storage for ad-hoc spending like snak or lunch or Pokemon cards or raves etc. Where depending on calculating i still have to do each month flows a bit from main storage of money.

    Hope that solves

    Ahh and in the reminder list inplan to organise my repeating houshold tasks as well, so that she won’t have to remind me in the future

    😃✌🏻

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      Thank you so much, this is great advice.

      But I think it may already be too late for us. We’ve been on the brink of breaking up before and my wife hasn’t been happy in our marriage in a long time. Last week she told me this once again and that she’s currently under too much pressure (other things going on in her life) to make any decisions but basically thinking about ending things. And then two days later we had an ugly fight and I think… I think it’s too late.

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        Those points are valid as well when you are on your own

        There is just nobody telling you to get your shit together

        Sorry, strong words, but i tell them to myself as well

        If you are alone with this syndrome, there is risk, that you procrastinate such important tasks and nobody is setting up a deadline, or you just learn to ignore deadlines and accept fate, which can, of course work out, but mostly isn’t, and yea, I guess you can imagine where you would most likely end up

        Edit: I have enough friends who went that way, and it is sad to watch. First I didn’t see, but events in the last year together with eye-opening talks with my girlfriend has shown it to me, has shown me, that if I were on my own, I probably went that way as well…

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    I’m sorry to hear you’re in your position. Failing marriages are always awful, and when it’s caused by disability it can be that much more uncomfortable.

    And I’ll say that, I relate a lot more to you in this situation. I could never marry someone who needs me to function like I don’t have adhd, which is why I married someone who’s more like us. I knew what I was getting into and so did she and the loads we share are built on the reasonable expectations we always had, like that things won’t always be as clean as we might like them to be and that dinner plans are subject to how much effort we have the capacity to put in at the time.

    Keep working on your mental health, and show yourself kindness and forgiveness. Not only do you deserve such things, they’re also the most effective tools you can get to help you improve your ability to function outside of pharmaceuticals

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      Thank you <3 I don’t think my wife necessarily wants me to function like I don’t have adhd but I still often have a shitty way of handling it when I fuck up.

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        Yeah reading your comments in here, idk how you wouldn’t. You sound like you have deep seated self esteem issues especially pertaining to your adhd. I’d even hazard a guess and say you likely have trauma relating to it and how people have responded to it in you. You aren’t alone in this, and I’m calling it out because I’ve struggled with both of these things my entire adult life.

        So believe me when I assure you that you cannot resent yourself enough to be better. If it worked it would have worked by now. ADHD is tricky, and you have to learn to be cunning towards it. Charging at the executive dysfunction head on just results in tiring yourself out and resenting yourself further because you couldn’t do what neutotypicals can.

        You have a disability, and from the sounds of it you’ve gone a long time without getting much support for it. You’ll probably never function as well as neurotypicals would like, and some of the tasks you’ve described are ones that I struggle with too (my wife and I will ask each other to remind us to do a thing for a 20% chance either remembers). But there is hope for you as a functioning adult and even hope for you to have a happy and mutually satisfying marriage, whether or not your current marriage can be salvaged. But it begins with you pursuing treatment, help, and new strategies not because your wife deserves or needs it, but because you deserve the ability to function better.

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          Yeah, I’ve been suffering from depression for around 1,5 years and am currently on antidepressants in addition to my adhd meds. Looking back on my life I can see how ADHD has always been there but I also think that my interpersonal relationships suffered as badly as they could have. I think I was often lucky. For example, I lost my first “proper job” because I kept forgetting important things. But regardless of that my boss liked me on a personal level, suggested that this job just wasn’t for me and when I got a job at the same place but a different department we still got along great.

          But my relationship with my wife had only been my second proper relationship and my first true long-term relationship and I feel like my ADHD was a ticking timebomb and when it went off it shattered everything.

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    My now wife has ADHD, and I definitely feel like I take on nearly all responsibilities. It is exhausting and frustrating to no end.

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      I’m sorry to hear that. Having ADHD is a struggle but being the partner of someone with ADHD is extremely exhausting as well. I think there should be support groups for partners of ADHD-people.

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    I worry that my wife will feel she’s having to be a parent to me more than a partner, I bring it up when I’m feeling like I’ve put a lot on her shoulders and we have good communication.

    One thing she said really helped her understand was the book “Is it you, me, or ADHD?” Specifically, there’s a line in there that essentially says asking a person with ADHD to focus better is like asking someone to take off their glasses and just see better.

    From experience, when there’s problems in a relationship, it’s hard to be positive and the more you tiptoe around the person or argue the easier it becomes to fall into that void and soon it’s just a snake eating its own tail, no matter how much love you have for the other person. It’s very hard to break that cycle and keep up the energy.

    As for becoming more of an adult, habits are huge for me so creating ones that will work for you is the place to start. The hardest thing for me to break was being sure I’d remember a thing this time! Now, if I have something to remember later, I grab my phone and type it into a note app. Then when I remember I’m forgetting something, I know to check my notes. Or, the other big one, asking Google to remind me of things. “Hey Google, remind me at 3pm tomorrow that I need to call the doctor” and then I put it out of my mind until the notification pops up on my phone the next day and I remember to thank past me for making things easier for present me.

    And now the hardest bit I have: being in a relationship where you’re taking care of the person is hard. I was in one back in my youth and as soon as I knew the person was going to be ok I knew I was done. I spent so much time making sure they were ok that when they were I realized there was nothing left for me in it. I think it’s ok to ask that question, no out of anger but from maturity. Sometimes drama is attractive and could be a reason someone stays. Objectively, do either of you feel the need to go on? Of you weren’t married do either of you feel like you would shake hands and walk away? Don’t get stuck in an emotional sunk cost fallacy, neither of you deserve that.

    Good luck.

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    Check out the Fever app for local date night ideas. I have found a few fun things like candlelight music, dining in the dark, escape rooms, etc.

    Check out Everout for local things like comedy shows, book readings, events, night markets, and other things to do that sound interesting to you. Actually commit to going to one.

    Write notes. It sounds corny, but it takes 5 minutes and means a lot, even if you’re a rambling mess. Tell her how much she means to you in physical writing.

    Find a new meal recipe that sounds good to you. Make the food, get some wine, and ask her about something she is interested in. Listen attentively, and ask questions.

    I struggle with ADHD as well. I am always thinking about something else. I am not an extrovert. These ideas are things you can do with your partner, or any new partner/friend. When it comes to whether you should separate, that’s something only you can decide. If you want to make it work, it does take effort - a relationship is a two way street, or a dance you can’t do apart.

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    Did you get a diagnosis?

    If not, it’s possible this is anxiety from the relationship in a bad feedback loop.

    You seem to have some avoidance, she seems removed emotionally(exhaustion), and you both probably need to work on boundaries.

    I don’t mean to project. My last relationship of 5 years is almost perfectly described by your post including seeking an ADHD diagnosis in therapy. In my case it turned out she was never able to be emotionally available to me in the first place. That drove her to be critical of me and not provide intimacy which in turn caused me to be in a constant increasing state of anxiety about what next thing will I have fucked up. Severe executive dysfunction…

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    Couples counseling, do it. Worst case scenario things still don’t work out and you divorce with the knowledge that you sincerely tried to repair things. Also you will have learned and grown from the experience. Best case scenario you both work through some difficult things with help and started repairing the relationship.

    My guess is that both of you are exhausted. It is really hard to have optimism when don’t even have the energy for things you enjoy.

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    I feel like there are no bad guys here. Are you on meds yet? That helped my kids. I do sympathize most with your wife - you are going to have to do a lot of the stuff she’s doing for you now if you break up, so I can understand she is frustrated you won’t do it.

    We divide labor in my house. Husband is more tight about cleaning, he doesn’t want mess. I don’t care as much, I do clean up but not in an organized way and certainly not to his standards. He does what he can, but importantly - we also have a cleaning lady come every second week because I know my limitations and it’s not fair to push all the cleaning off onto husband. He doesn’t cook, I do that, the gardening, the finances & tech stuff (cleaning up takes as much time as all of that together I think and I value so much not having to do as much of it) and we both work full time. Some stuff we put on auto-ship so neither of us have the mental load. Dog food, flea medicine, toilet paper, medicines. Anything where it can come at a regular frequency. He writes a lot of post it notes too & phone reminders - if you aren’t good at remembering, use timers and notes.

    I know you are posting mostly to vent, and might not want suggestions so please just take this as it’s meant, some thoughts because your post resonates with me. I am sorry y’all are going through this, both of you.

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      Thank you, I appreciate your suggestions :) I’m on meds, yes, and I think it has helped a bit but not as much as I had hoped it would.

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    Don’t make yourself feel that kind of guilt man. Relationships are complex as hell and change over time. Sometimes people have expectations that they aren’t communicating well, and sometimes people have expectations that aren’t really reasonable. I’m seeing you placing a lot of blame at your own feet, but the nature of a disease is that it is something you cannot control. If you are working on it then that is all you can do and I applaud you for that. And I’m so sorry to hear about your struggles and I hope they ease up for you soon

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    First of all, this must be really difficult and I wish you strength to come through this with hope and dignity.

    I lasted 12 years with my ex through good and bad times. She had her own neurodivergences and I was not adequately handling mine. I caused a lot of shit by being absent, dissociated, unhelpful etc.

    Blaming myself for the failure of our relationship is not helpful. It went the way it went because of who we were at the time. I use it as motivation and a chance to learn about myself and how to be better.

    Being successful with ADHD requires a kindness and gentleness to one’s self. I would ask myself “Would you say these things to a stranger? Would you say these things to a friend? Then why would you say them to me?”

    One of the turning points for me was to stop putting myself last and to instead put myself first. If I am strong then I can be more dependable for others. I give myself the accommodations that I need. I stopped treating myself badly. I learned how to love myself. I stand my ground when others expect too much of me. These things were integral in becoming the person that my new partner now loves and respects me for.

    When two people don’t work out it’s no one’s fault. Each is betting on a future with someone that is an accessible attractive option and often that bet doesn’t yield the results they wanted but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t worth the time that was had. We can’t tell the future. No one is perfect. Perfection doesn’t even exist. We’re all just muddling through the day to day. Shakespeare asked is it better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all - and there is a clear answer - its better to have loved and lost, because it wouldn’t be painful if there was no substance to it.

    I’d hazard a guess that you guys are probably done and that the best thing for you is distance right now. After some distance and time you’ll know if there is any future. You probably already know that though.

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      One of the turning points for me was to stop putting myself last and to instead put myself first.

      This is actually great advice. I’ve started to notice that I have ended up in a mental place where I’m constantly beating myself up and disregarding my own needs and feelings because “I’m the one who’s wrong” and so I feel like I’m not allowed to complain about anything. It’s not helpful at all.

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    This is chilling: I momentarily thought I wrote a post in my sleep. My partner and I are going through nearly the same thing right now, but I think I’m just a few months ahead of you and I’m non-binary.

    We’re working things out and we’re working on ourselves. I’m happy to share what has helped if you’re interested, plus you’re welcome to DM me if you just need to vent with someone who gets how difficult this can be.

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    Maybe couples therapy is a better investment than therapy for you individually.

    Not adulting enough: is the issue that you are not working or that she doesn’t feel you are carrying your part of the domestic work?

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      The issue is that I’m bad at “the mental load”. Keeping things in mind, being aware of stuff that needs to be taken care of and taking care of it before it’s too late.

      For example, I do the dishes, I vacuum, take out the trash, no problem. But when there’s mold starting to grow between the tiles in the bathroom I probably won’t notice it for a long time and, once I do notice it, ignore it :P

      Or, it took me over a year to finally get rid of our broken washing machine. My wife has asked me to take care of it and I said I would but then months passed and nothing happened.

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        I set alarms and/or calendar reminders as a coping mechanism. I don’t always do the thing when the time comes but it at least gets forced back into my head over and over again until I eventually do it. My life has gone a lot smoother since I started doing this.

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        I think that’s a problem in many relationships, romantic or professional. Saying that you will do something and not doing it is terrible (sorry, you and your wife is right). Putting it in the calendar is the way as someone said. First put in an hour where you can figure out the steps (does it fit in the car, do I need one of those wheelie things, where can I get rid of it) and then schedule the actual getting rid of it and any steps before that. Break shit down. Use an LLM if it helps you. Making a detailed plan is good because then you can’t ponder it any more (trying to figure out the best way of doing something has stopped many a person from doing anything). Calendar items means that it’s more important than anything else you might be doing at that time (like vacuuming or whatever).

        It’s the DO IT. DO IT NOW coping strategy where you do anything you notice / realise needs doing if it takes less than five minutes - with the extension that it takes less than five minutes to put things into a calendar.

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          Thank you so much :) I have in fact started to set reminders and alarms for things I need to do and it works well. My problem is rather to become aware of things that will need to be taken care of soon or being attentive enough to notice when something needs to be done, you know?

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        This hits really close to home. Am going through my own divorce right now and my ADHD is a major contributing factor to the breakdown of our relationship.

        I don’t know about your situation, but my wife has too much of her own trauma to deal with my bullshit (and I say that knowing everyone has their own flavor of bullshit). She grew more and more discontent, and her trauma responses in particular were not a good fit for my ADHD

        The “mental load” issue is hard for us, because a lot of the time we just need help learning or noticing. When you start collaborating on those things early it keeps the stress from reaching critical levels. But if the stress has already built up, it seems almost impossible for us to carry enough of the load on our own to bring it back down

        I would ask my wife for accommodations like “if the laundry needs doing, leave the hamper in the hallway where I’ll see it every time I walk by”. Or “let’s do the dishes together, or even just body-double for me, because doing stuff as a team is motivating for me and gets it done immediately.” But by the time we realized what I needed, she was already too stressed out to see that as anything but “taking care of me” or “being a mom.” It hurt like hell to now what I needed and have a partner who was unwilling or unable to provide it.

        As the issues grew, our intimacy declined, which made me way, way worse and feel like the woman who already struggled to speak in my love language (unrelated to the ADHD stuff) couldn’t provide what I needed anymore either.

        I don’t mean to trauma-dump, just commiserate. I feel your pain on this, deeply. I think people like us need someone to understand what they’re getting into up-front so we can do the work together that keeps it from becoming a serious problem :(

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          Wow, what you wrote hit really close to home as well.

          My wife had a very difficult childhood and unfortunately me having ADHD not being attentive enough triggers her personal trauma. We are a perfect match in many ways but in this aspect we are a terrible combination, our personal histories make everything so much harder.

          Thank you so much for your words and I’m sorry you’re going through such a hard thing yourself <3

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            Did your wife do the thing where they feel “if I have to help at all I might add well do it myself. If I’m not resting, it’s no different than just doing it”? That was a huge problem for us because doing things by myself is the problem.

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    If the problems started 5 years in the relationship, it sounds more that you guys grew apart. Your ADHD might be a factor in that, but it can’t be the only thing, since no one suddenly develops ADHD at the age of 38. Doing the math it also seems the problems started during Covid, so maybe that’s another factor? It was a rough time for everyone. Anyway, I wish you all the best and don’t beat yourself up too much.

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      Mentioning covid is actually spot on for me. I can only speak of my experience, but I seriously doubt my experience with ADHD becoming dramatically worse during covid lockdown and never really recovering is unique to me.

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        Our problems actually did start during Covid but I don’t think the pandemic / the lockdown had anything to do with it. But that was when we moved to a new apartment for the second time and my wife started to realize that she was the one taking care of everything.

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      We definitely also grew apart. I have been really bad at keeping the relationship alive. Like, in the 10 years we’ve been together, I’ve been able to maybe arrange a handful of date nights. I never initiate doing anything fun, like a surprise weekend trip or a special date night, because I’m so bad at planning and arranging things.

      I think that at the beginning my wife ignored some of the ADHD red flags that were definitely already there because we were so in love. When we moved to a different city two years into our relationship she took care of everything but it wasn’t an issue then. Eventually she realized that she was taking care of everything all the time.

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        What are you referring to when you say she takes care of everything? Are you unable to hold down a job, do you participate in household chores, do you engage with her and your friends, etc. Things like finding an apartment and arranging date nights are either one time tasks or not terribly consequential. I’m not saying there’s nothing for you to work on here but the things I’ve specifically seen you describe don’t sound like huge deals unless someone is looking to make them one.

        As an example, my wife is usually pretty indecisive when it comes to planning unimportant things like date nights so I generally pick where we go and what we do. I could choose to interpret that as her forcing me to “take care of everything” but why would I choose to frame things in such a way that they make her seem useless? I noticed that she does not enjoy, or for whatever reason is not good at, planning those kinds of things so I step up and handle them for both of us. I view it as an act of service for someone that I love, not as an obstacle to my own happiness. As long as both people are looking to help in their own way then all that’s needed to maintain the system is a generous interpretation of your partners actions. I would hope that attitude would be even more prevalent in our relationship if she had a medical condition that prevented her from doing some of those things, rather than just a personal preference. That’s how relationships are supposed to work imo.

        So much of relationships comes down to how we’ve conditioned ourselves to think about them. I get the impression that both of you are stuck in the idea that everything is your fault and my experience says that things are never that simple when both partners are decent people, which it sounds like is the case for you. It’s theoretically possible but incredibly unlikely. Again, that doesn’t mean that there’s no work for you to do to improve things. All I’m saying is that from the limited information I have about the situation it seems to me that her tendency to blame all of your relationship problems on you is just as much a factor in your perceived struggles as your ADHD. Maybe I’m way off base here but it’s something to consider at least.

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          I have a job, and fortunately one that I’m actually really good at. I participate in chores but the problem is more like… being aware of “the bigger picture”, so to speak. Like, when we’re looking for / moving into a new apartment: All the things that will need to be done in the process and doing them in time. Thinking and planning ahead.

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            That makes sense. I can see why that could be frustrating for her but it still seems like a workable problem if you are both interested in doing so. Her choosing to frame it like an unfair circumstance you’re forcing her into instead of a way for her to care for you or even as an area to improve on together is a big part of the issue though. You’ll never be happy in a relationship if you can’t love people in spite of their flaws. Fairness is a pleasant ideal but it only works in theory.