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    Imo the bots already did their work and now more than half of the country is willfully vegetative. I remember the last time i saw neuronal activity…

    Now i want the US to have a civil war because im tired of being the tolerant left. Youre either for progress or your against it. For too long we have been hindered by wanting to maintain the moral high ground, civility politics, and the paradox of tolerance. Its all justifications for shitty behavior, and imo shitty behavior should no longer be tolerated. If you are arguing against human rights in 2025 i want to see you bleed, no exceptions

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        The best propaganda doesn’t try to create a divide, it leverages the conflicts that already exist.

        Americans have watched the conservatives openly embrace not only fascists, but actual Nazis.

        Sure, you can say those people would stayed under their rocks without the push but they’re out in the open now and the fact the bots got them to admit it doesn’t stop that from having happened.

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          Well spoken, and I agree.

          The division will always be there but it takes a special kind of sociopath and a government not working for the people to allow othering or scapegoating to take place.

          It really is psychological warfare. Instead of our government protecting us it says, “hold my beer.”

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    I just want to fight internally because the rich attack us constantly and nobody does anything about it.

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    You are a bot, you are a bot, everyone is a bot! If the Internet could be treated like a society, it would be the lowest trust society in existence.

    But having said that, if the US doesn’t want to be told to fight against its tyrants who repeatedly violate their constitution, it shouldn’t have made its entire patriotic identity about fighting tyrants and honoring its constitution. If the US didn’t want people from outside the US to tell them to “fight amongst themselves” then they shouldn’t act like a multiple personality bipolar with one personality fighting with itself and the other bending the knee to make sure to always offer a degree of submissive complacency to the abusive personality.

    Hostile nations are pushing these narratives, but let’s not act like they don’t have any ground.

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      Or Taiwanese bots? I could see Chinese bots based in Taiwan or using Taiwanese exit nodes sure. Why would the Taiwanese want to weaken the country partnerships they made that keeps their sovereignty from Chinese control?

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        Europe might not want to sacrifice their economy and get another round of austerity to appease American banks.

        Taiwan might not want to be used like cannon fodder in pursuit of America’s goal of weakening China.

        Of course the oligarchs in both those places would be quite happy with those outcomes so their botfarms probably aren’t supporting the message.

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          Na, If Taiwan loses the oligarchs lose hard in that specific country, they have a state sponsored monopoly on silicon China would F things up hard, I’m afraid in this case no conspiracy can even close to be found, that JFK thing though you should look into that again.

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            That’s why I said the oligarchs would be happy to fight China to the last drop of the working class’s blood.

            That’s not a conspiracy, you can find unhinged Taiwan-based billionaires crying for more rifle and training so their fellow Taiwanese can be sacrificed to protect their own control.

            About the JFK thing, whether Oswald was a CIA asset acting on Allen Dulles’s orders, or merely was a CIA asset who killed the guy Dulles thought was insufficiently anticommunist and betrayed America by not sending the military in after Bay Of Pigs by coincidence is barely a conspiracy.

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          Thats all well and good until you consider weakening China would protect not only the Taiwanese but people around the globe. I mean, who in their right mind feels safer with the enablers of Russia and Iran calling the shots? Mass death cultists, thats who.

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            Like Cuba, all Iran did was overthrow the US-imposed dictator, and stop letting America take their resources/labor, and America has never forgiven them.

            Weakening China by having America spend every last drop of your people’s lives, until America feels like its no longer in its interests and doesn’t give you a seat at the peace table isn’t in the interests of the people of Taiwan.

            Status quo of “reunification, sure, eventually, definitly maybe next century🙃” is infinity better for the actual people.

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              The Shah weren’t great, except for some cool shit they did while fighting the Axis, but the USSR tried to overthrow them to install communist loyalists in 1946 the same way they had in China. That British-American backed Shah regime lasted until the Iranian Revolution that installed a radical militant Islamic theocracy. That theocracy recently funded and outfitted the Hamas fighters who reignited the war by attacking a civilian music festival on October 7th 2023, which has overall been a huge success for Russia and China as it made the Biden Administration look terrible and the Trump administration they supported took power in the USA.

              I’ve heard that lately they’ve run out of drinkable water due to gross mismanagement and now many of them will be dying pointless deaths.

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                Youre framing America’s attack dog murdering tens of thousands of mostly children in response to Palestinians trying to escape a concentration camp as a victory for America’s enemies because it made America look bad.

                Maybe take a step back and realize these are actual human beings you’re talking about.

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                  Yes, China and Russia helped Iran and Netanyahu murder those people, mostly innocent women and children. This is a proxy war and this is what it looks like when the West is losing. Just like those women and children dying of thirst in Iran. Just like a million more inhumane things. Weakening China would be a blessing in this godless world.

                  If Israel is the USA’s dog then clearly nobody ever told Israel, they didn’t listen to Biden and they haven’t honored any ceasefires under Trump, either (although it’s unclear if Trump wants it this way or even cares at all).

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    The onion is missing the opportunity to make an onion article about a politician promising to bring the bot industry to America.

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    At first glance, I thought those bots were pissing on the US. I still think that would make more sense.