• 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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    2 hours ago

    Yes, because the way to cope with cycles of abuse is to perpetuate it.

    Do you recommend that people should beat their kids if they got beaten up as kids?

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      2 hours ago

      That’s not the point. The point is that fully funded, comprehensive health care rather than over-funded death and destruction would give people emotional survival skills beyond perpetration of aggression.

      • 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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        1 hour ago

        Still their fault the moment they decided to become the abusers and inflict more horrors on the world. that is a choice they made.

        But yhea, healthcare and education should be universal and not tied to being a mercenary for the empire

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          1 hour ago

          How people are socialized (brainwashed) from birth is a thing. I didn’t do it, and I taught my kid not to do it, and that’s hard in a society that has kids pledge allegiance to a flag from preschool onward. I was heavily pressured by my whole family but one grandparent who shared with me the horrors of shell shocked brothers returning after mandatory conscription. I also read a lot, still mostly propaganda. I consider myself fortunate. Not everyone has the mental fortitude to withstand the pressure and accusations of not being patriotic. Do I think they bear personal responsibility? Yes; and the blame goes back to the very foundation of the United States.

          https://storychanges.com/what-is-the-child-development-hypothesis-of-ivan-pavlov.html

          • 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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            40 minutes ago

            Yhea, but my rule of thumb, the moment someone chooses to stop being a victim of those cycles and becomes the cause of that cycle all empathy and and understanding get flushed away. and instead I rather focus on their victims.

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              36 minutes ago

              My larger point is, without addressing the cause, victims will perpetuate.

              For example, toe gets gangrene, amputate the toe without addressing the blood clot in the leg, or fasting blood sugar level of 200.