• Saik0@lemmy.saik0.com
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    11 months ago

    Nah, google goes out of it’s way to throw popups to users that “it’s untrusted” “it’s unsafe” etc. etc… When you sideload things. Going even so far as to hide the continue button under drop downs to skip their shit.

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      11 months ago

      It’s just once when you’re installing the thing, and considering how idiotic most users are the warnings are actually warranted in most cases.

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        11 months ago

        And after updates… and sometimes mysteriously out of nowhere…

        I get the stupid notice once a month or so. Especially the “This app isn’t scanned by the play store! Please send us a copy”

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          11 months ago

          I have never seen that. I get one popup saying that installing things from outside the store is not allowed, once you allow the app to do so, e.g. chrome if you’re downloading an APK from it, I only get a confirmation to install and that’s it. It never again bothers me.

          Are you using some non-default android, e.g. Samsung phone? If so your problem is with Samsung, not with Google. I have a Motorola and a Pixel, both behave the same.

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            11 months ago

            Are you using some non-default android, e.g. Samsung phone? If so your problem is with Samsung, not with Google. I have a Motorola and a Pixel, both behave the same.

            https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/245010/google-play-protect-shows-warning-when-installing-an-apk

            This prompt for PLAY PROTECT, has nothing to do with the manufacturer of your device. As long as google play is installed you will get this notice for apps that it wants to scan, without your permission. But I will say it’s likely I get this prompt more often because of revanced, which gets compiled on my phone directly.

            Notice that there’s no “Never send unknown apps”. It’s all dark patterns to stop people from using other sources.

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              11 months ago

              First of all in my 10+ years of using Android, sideloading things, including my own compiled programs I have not once seen that popup.

              Secondly, from the link you provided here’s how to “Never send unknown apps”:

              Send unknown apps to Google If you choose to install apps from unknown sources outside of the Google Play Store, turning on the “Improve harmful app detection” setting will allow Google Play Protect to send unknown apps to Google to protect you from harmful apps.

              Open the Google Play Store app Google Play.

              At the top right, tap the profile icon.

              Tap Play Protect and then Settings.

              Turn Improve harmful app detection on or off.

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                11 months ago

                Congrats? You’ve never seen it… So? That somehow invalidates my experience?

                So you don’t see the problem with have to jump through literally 4 menus worth of stuff to turn off something that could simply be on the prompt itself? That’s the whole point. That google has made it hostile to sideload. Most users would be concerned about the APK, even if sourced from a legitimate place after seeing that prompt. It’s literally a dark pattern. But here we are… people like you for some ungodly reason defending the practice.

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                  11 months ago

                  No, but you made it sound like “Android has a terrible experience side-loading” when what you should have said was “I had a bad experience side-loading on Android”, your experience is not the norm and if you’re going to claim that it is I can easily claim mine is as well.

                  Having to go through 4 menus to turn something off that hasn’t triggered once in 10+ years seems acceptable. Not sure why you’re getting that amount of popups, but it either has something to do with your phone, the app, or something else specific to you. This is not a common issue, I have side-loaded a bunch of things for over a decade, worked in android apps (in fact I’m currently compiling and installing an app almost daily), and worked with several people and several phones and have never seen that popup once, not saying that you’re not seeing it, not saying that you’re not seeing it a lot, not invalidating your experience, just pointing out that it’s not common, so when you make a broad statement like:

                  google goes out of it’s way to throw popups to users that “it’s untrusted” “it’s unsafe” etc. etc…

                  You can expect the remaining 99% of users who are not affected by whatever weird combination of factors you have that triggers this will reply that it’s not common.