• khepri@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    These past few elections have been fucking important. As someone who lived through the whole “boring” era of Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama, these last 10 years have been aberrant in every way politically and it’s dumb to pretend they haven’t been.

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      31 minutes ago

      I fully agree, it’s too bad that the point was lost on so many people who just heard “YOU HAVE TO VOTE” and didn’t make any effort to absorb reality and multiple angles of actual news stories and not just Facebook memes and shorts played on Twitter.

      The last several elections have had the highest turnouts in US history, including the largest youth turnout, but on exit polling the people were completely tuned-out and said they didn’t actually think there was meaningful differences between candidates and just based their decisions on prices of groceries and who was in charge when the prices got high… by their own reckoning. A lot of “Well maybe Trump will shake things up” and seemed to have ZERO memory of his first term or that he was even president before.

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        51 minutes ago

        I mean, you didn’t have multiple militia groups and a bunch of rioters break into the Supreme Court trying to stop them from making that ruling, and then all get arrested and sent to jail, and then all get pardoned by the very guy they wanted to illegally stay in office, so yeah, bush v gore was relatively boring.

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          no you just had shit like people with (justified) geopolitical grievances against the US flying planes into towers. very dull.

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      It’s also dumb to pretend the “boring” era wasn’t politically aberrant as well. They were setting the stage for what we are seeing now, and it’s telling that people are only getting upset now that fascism is getting focused inwards and domestically instead of outwardly towards other countries.

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        52 minutes ago

        It’s naive to believe that this is anything aberrant to begin with.

        They have been setting up this stage since the fucking New Deal made concessions to the working class to stymie a growing threat of working class revolt. Not even a few years later they enacted Taft-Hartley and began dismantling union power.

        There was a slight resurgence of working class action during the Civil Rights movement but unfortunately that was all co-opted by the establishment in order to keep the working class divided.

        The Gilded Age rober barons were pissed they lost their fiefdoms and then began to systematically claw it back from the people ever since.

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        55 minutes ago

        yeah this is a fair point, there has not been a time in US history when our politics was not fucked up in same way or other, and we weren’t doing a bunch of terrible shit both across the world and domestically. I just hate when people look at Trump and are like “yep, this is what we’ve always been, every President is exactly like this.” Because they are simultaneously so right and so very very wrong about that.