• riverWoof@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 days ago

    Are you referring to Graham Platner?? Because that’s the only person I’ve seen BE specifically admonish and treat as irredeemable, and Platner is laughably far from being redeemed.

    That middle paragraph you have there about an 18 year old who joins and soon quits and feels regretful is literally the same example BE has used as someone who is actually redeemable.

    I don’t know BE well enough to speak on the Trump point, but considering how much you seem to be mischaracterizing his point here, I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re wrong there as well.

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      2 days ago

      So you have to quit within a specific period of time to be redeemable? We just what, write off anyone who stays too long, no matter how much they regret, apologize, etc.? In Platner’s case specifically, I’m not 100% convinced due to a couple of his reddit comments, but Empanada is acting like anyone on the left is completely gung-ho about former US soldiers as long as there were any sympathetic factors in their enlistment, regardless of how they now feel about the US military, which very plainly isn’t true.

      And he’s ridiculing the concept of giving people a chance to redeem themselves based on current remorse, not just considering that remorse to be redemption on its own (which obviously is ridiculous, but I have yet to see anyone on the left doing that).

      He’s also doing the enlightened centrist “can’t you see that these things are the same, you utter buffoon?” between someone who did bad things and claims to regret them and someone who is a current war hawk and voted to make BDS illegal.

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        He literally said in a reddit comment that he joined to kill people and even recently he’s only criticized US war mongering as being “pointless” and harmful to US soldiers. He also had a tattoo that sure resembled a Totemkoff (Nazi symbol) and one of his comments shows that he did know of the symbol, so it seems very unlikely he just got it by accident.

        So no, it has very little to do with a period of time and everything to do with people having to actually show remorse and not probably being Nazis. I can’t speak to everyone BE is criticizing but he’s very directly criticized specific liberals who are straight up lying about Platner’s past by saying “oh poverty draft”, meanwhile he was EAGER to do it and not even in need of money.

        I’m not sure who the other party you’re referring to at the end there is, but again Platner doesn’t even make big claims about regret, his platform is partially about building up the US military, and he’s said hardly a lick about the horrible shit he did to people. Hardly the token guy that we need to redeem, he hasn’t done shit.