• JahuteSkye@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    Gotta love tankie cope graphs. “approval rating” in a country where dissent is criminal? Seems legit.

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      4 hours ago

      An approval rating is given for Russia too, with much stricter “criminal dissent” laws than China. Do you suspect that the western institution which made this graph is evil CPC propaganda? This data is literally portrayed in Statista, it doesn’t get more western capitalist than that.

      Now, don’t forget I’m waiting for your condemnation of the capitalist atrocities against the Ukrainian population since 1990. Otherwise, to other commenters, you may appear as a dishonest propagandist leveraging Ukrainian suffering only to condemn things you already stood against.

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      Dissent isn’t criminal, undermining the socialist system is. Speak with Chinese citizens yourselves, the majority are proud of their country and enjoy the system they’ve been collectively building for themselves.

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        Oh, I have. What’s really fun is talking to Chinese expats who no longer fear government reprisal. I did a lot of interviews as part of a thesis on the concept of a social panopticon and panoptic influence.

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          Only speaking to expats and not actual citizens is like talking only to Cuban exiles about Cuba and not Cubans themselves.

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            Chinese citizens will only criticize their government when they’re 100% sure it’ll never get back to the government, and that trust is extremely difficult to achieve because they are absolutely terrified of their government’s ability to influence even their closest friends and family.

            If you honestly believe there’s no public dissent because everyone just loves their oligarchs so much… I don’t know what to say. That’s just fully stupid.

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              Citation needed, otherwise this is just chauvanism. You just pulled all of this right out of your ass. China doesn’t have oligarchs, they have administrators and government officials, and the CPC itself has over 100 million members.

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                  China is in the developing stages of socialism. Billionaires exist, but are gradually decreasing in number over time as the working class gradually increases in prosperity. China has not yet achieved communism, where distribution is based on need. Instead, distribution is mostly based on the market for now, according to labor primary.

                  If you’re going to quote Marx, the least you could do is read him.

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                    China saw a 60% increase in billionaires between 2020 and 2021 alone. It fell since then but it’s still higher than it was pre-pandemic, and WAY higher than it was in the '70s before China went free market.