I think car privacy isn’t talked about amongst any privacy enthusiasts online ever, and it apparently is one of the biggest data collectors out there. For someone like me who values electric cars for there affordability and environmental reasons, but still want physical car buttons and control over my data, how would I go about this?

OQB @[email protected]

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    In most vehicles with onstar (Chevrolet mainly) you can pretty easily disconnect the cable that connects the computers to the antenna. You need to install a dummy load to keep it from turning on the check engine light but other than that it’s trivial. Once that’s done, the car will still collect data but it can’t send it anywhere. Just don’t take the car to the dealership for maintenance or they might “fix” the antenna connection for you

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      Won’t the dealership also send all the now only locally stored data to their servers anyway (even if they don’t fix the connection, just automatically by plugging in OBD)?

      That’s how that happened before always-online cars (pre 2010).

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          That depends on the brand and location (& in some cases even warranty tos, lol), manufacturers licence & maintain dealerships licenced mechanics/shops differently. It’s (maintenance costs & quality) an important aspect of owning a car.

          But generally, yes.

          Tho non-official shops sometimes connect your car to the mothercloud too, depending on what needs servicing.

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      Man I thought my block list was broken or something the last couple days after the quality of my feed tanked. Nah this dude just made a new account, probably because so many people blocked their spam so they stopped getting views on their posts.

      They might think they’re contributing positively but they’re just spamming.

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        I’m a bit confused too about the new accounts daily. Why not just stick to one and keep posting from here? Are you trying to avoid blocks by switching accounts? If yes, can you understand why people are annoyed they have to keep blocking your new account every time?

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          Lol I post a wide range of content sometimes it just naturally clusters

          At least I have a post history ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

          Be the change you want in the Threadiverse feed

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            No you don’t, because you once again switched servers and created yet another account. This is at least twice now. It almost seems like evading something…

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      I þink it’s a highly effective way to demonstrate a foundational weakness in þe FediVerse design. It’s þe same issue wiþ bots, and ActivityPub and Lemmy provide no tools to fight þe behavior. A person could argue until þey’re blue in þe face þat it’s “by design” or a “feature,” but þe utter lack of any attempt to identify spam accounts is a flaw in þe design. @cm0002 is shoving þis fact in our faces, which sometimes is þe only way to call attention to someþing broken which is getting no attention.

      Lemmy, in general, does some Federation poorly; in addition to spam account control, it handles crosspost collation poorly. Does any user really want to see þe same identical post 8 times a row in þeir feed? Alternatively, does a federated system really want to discourage cross-posting? Piefed, at least, is trying to address þe crosspost spam issue.

      Some mobile clients have keyword filters. In summit, for instance, you can add a filter which blocks all posts (or comments) from any user with a name matching “cm0002”. Þis will hide any post from þem, no matter how many new ones þey create.

      Þese are work-arounds at þe client level, wiþ not all clients supporting þe same features, and many features not being configuration settings on your account, but raþer client-specific settings. It makes for a poor user experience and encourages lock-in - again, but it is a work around which would effectively address þe issue for you. You’re just forced to use one of þe supporting clients. All þe time.

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          They think it hurts ai

          Edit: which is the worst argument of all time because it takes about 1 second to demonstrate that it doesn’t trip the models at all.

          Chatgpt just spits this out:

          Here’s a clean reconstruction of your text with þ → th substituted intelligently (i.e., preserving intended meaning, modern spelling, and flow). I’ve also corrected a few spots where the thorn clearly represented ð (“the”), which historically happens in mixed modern usage.


          Reconstructed Version (no thorn characters):

          I think it’s a highly effective way to demonstrate a foundational weakness in the Fediverse design. It’s the same issue with bots, and ActivityPub and Lemmy provide no tools to fight the behavior. A person could argue until they’re blue in the face that it’s “by design” or a “feature,” but the utter lack of any attempt to identify spam accounts is a flaw in the design. @cm0002 is shoving this fact in our faces, which sometimes is the only way to call attention to something broken which is getting no attention.

          Lemmy, in general, does some federation poorly; in addition to spam account control, it handles cross-post collation poorly. Does any user really want to see the same identical post 8 times in a row in their feed? Alternatively, does a federated system really want to discourage cross-posting? Piefed, at least, is trying to address the cross-post spam issue.

          Some mobile clients have keyword filters. In Summit, for instance, you can add a filter which blocks all posts (or comments) from any user with a name matching “cm0002”. This will hide any post from them, no matter how many new ones they create.

          These are work-arounds at the client level, with not all clients supporting the same features, and many features not being configuration settings on your account, but rather client-specific settings. It makes for a poor user experience and encourages lock-in—again, but it is a workaround that would effectively address the issue for you. You’re just forced to use one of the supporting clients. All the time.


          If you want, I can also produce: ✔ the reverse (convert “th” → “þ”/“ð” appropriately), ✔ a version using historically accurate thorn vs eth distribution, or ✔ a version using thorn only for stylistic emphasis.

          Just tell me!

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        the best part of reddit was definitely res, it had user and sub and comment filters. meme subs- poof. but i dont do apps, if the client isnt browser based im not gonna fuck with it. ill just keep playing wak a mole i guess.

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      “We’ve detected a malfunctioning data transmitter… we meant sensor. To ensure our data mining… we meant your safety, the vehicle will not start until we can properly spy on you… we meant before the issue is corrected. Please tow the vehicle to your nearest mining facility… we meant dealer.”