No tolerance for Nazis, or people who vote for Nazis. No tolerance for MAGA, or people who vote for MAGA.

  • FlyingCircus@lemmy.worldOP
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    3 days ago

    That’s a good question. How far must we go to ensure that “Never Again” is reality? The resurrection of fascism in the US and Germany show that mere social ostracism or even outlawing Nazi rhetoric outright does nothing when people get complacent and the capitalist elites start spewing propaganda.

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      3 days ago

      We must ensure nobody gets absolute power, because power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

      You keep wealth distributed evenly among a population and have their needs met and these things don’t happen.

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        Well, not all the way evenly. It’s fine to have relatively rich and poor. Money should be a measure of what your society owes you, and society owes my doctor more than it owes my deadbeat… whatever, who just doesn’t want to get a job.

        Make that doctor as many lattes and avocado toasts as he wants.

        Everyone working 40 hours a week should be able to ask their neighbors for things like “take my garbage from the curb to the dump” or “educate my kids” or “make me a sandwich”. That is the concept of money at its core.

        We’ll say the going rate for a skilled worker is $100k a year with a working lifetime of ~40 years, about $4m in total. Ain’t nobody out there that deserves the lifetime’s work of 250 people working solely for them, 40 hours a week, ~44 weeks a year. (That’s about a billion dollars.) Yeah, maybe you can control that many people or more if you’re working towards a common purpose and providing value for others, but that would be a billion dollars in gross income that’s redistributed, not net profit for one person.

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          I mean, I don’t have the energy to discuss specifics, but I think at a very base level we agree here that people should contribute to society as much as they can and get what they need and that nobody should just get passive income.

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          Well, not all the way evenly. It’s fine to have relatively rich and poor. Money should be a measure of what your society owes you, and society owes my doctor more than it owes my deadbeat… whatever, who just doesn’t want to get a job.

          your job does not give you dignity or worth.

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            11 hours ago

            Yeah, it absolutely can. Yes, every person has base dignity and worth, but I absolutely have more respect for people who make a living saving lives, for instance. I respect doctors, nurses, firemen, scientists, architects, construction workers, mailmen.

            If you do absolutely nothing and provide nothing back to society, then yes, I have more respect for those other people who do serve their fellow man, generally.