Majority of Liberals wanted net zero gone
The shadow ministry met for about three hours on Thursday morning to set the path forward, a day after Liberal MPs and senators converged on Canberra for a mammoth net-zero-themed party room meeting.Each of the 49 members present on Wednesday was offered five minutes to speak on the topic, and while there was no formal vote, Liberals all agreed that there were more people opposed to the target than in favour.
See - this is a serious problem: As a result of the party’s shoddy stance on climate, despite the electorate making it crystal clear they want this, they’re listening internally the few members who were elected - and not all the members who failed to be elected.
How can the party look at the success of the Teal movement, which is essentially ‘Liberals who care about climate’, and not see the picture being painted? Surely you should look at all the seats you didn’t win and ask “why?”


Turnbulls NBN fuckery was a fucking disgrace.
Libs in the 90s(?) sold the copper network to Telstra. Only for Telstra to let it fall into disrepair.
Then these chucklefucks come up with the dumb fuck fibre + copper network, then have to pay Telstra for the copper network again. Just to have to fix it up, and run copper again in the fucking 2010s.
Only to just fucking rip it all out again to put fibre in as they should’ve done in the first place.
What a fucking waste, still salty about it to this day.
Any time someone says “nah turnbulls alright” I give them this story and they’re usually like “what a cunt” in the end.
You won’t often catch me defending Telstra, but here goes: they didn’t let the copper network fall into disrepair. They did genuinely maintain it at a standard that was pretty close to if not as good as what Telstra did. Those copper cables though were designed for telephony and never designed for the Internet. Some of that copper is over 100 years old. If all the lines needed to handle were plain old telephone, Telstra was doing ok.
We’ll never know whether Telecom would have gone to the Internet at all, as they were a telephone company. I can see Telecom in that alternate universe being all-in on mobile Internet though. It’s an interesting thought discussion.