Trump looks on after a man fainted during an announcement in the Oval Office.

  • Dale@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    It really sucks being a sane American right now. Like yeah you should boycott the US because money is the only language they speak, but it’s people like me who are going to suffer for it. Trump and his buddies are going to be fine. Feel like I’m rooting for my own downfall.

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          11 hours ago

          Illegal is not the word. There is a reason officers swear allegiance to the constitution and not the president or congress, and they usually have to write several hundred papers on why. If trump tries that shit they are pretty much duty bound to eat him.

        • Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          16 hours ago

          Hey, if they feel like picking up more trash for the county and giving the normal folks doing community service a break, they’ve got their work cut out for them lol

          As for persecution attempts, my family, my neighbors, and my city will be having no tolerance for that shit. Newsom probably isn’t going to be embracing that with open arms either, even if he’s got shitty sides to his politics.

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      19 hours ago

      Please don’t take this the wrong way, because I absolutely understand your position and the shitty position your in.

      Trump IS your president. Whether you voted for him or not. At the same time, the government, or rather the way you are governed, is also YOUR responsibility. No one can change it but you and your fellow citizens. If you don’t like your president, elect someone else. If you don’t like the presented options, pressure whatever party you think fits into providing better options. If you fear, you won’t be able to ever get a real vote anymore, then fight for your right! No one from the outside is going to come in and fix this for you. This is THE ONE responsibility that you have as a citizen…

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        18 hours ago

        Yes, but, it’s a responsibility spread across the entire population. If you’ve ever been apart of a group project in a school setting you’re likely familiar with how people can fuck that up despite your best efforts. Yes you’re also responsible, but you (imo) also get to bitch about how they fucked up your project.

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          18 hours ago

          Absolutely. But you can’t do more than kick the ass of everyone in your group that isn’t doing their part. You can’t stop and give up as well. You have to motivate all other group members and - if necessary - kick out the one dude that does nothing.

          So…you can complain and moan, but in the end it does not change what you have to do.

          From the other siexe of the pond, I really wish you all the strength and wish you all the best. I’m serious, I’m really worried about everyone in the US.

          • Blaster M@lemmy.world
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            17 hours ago

            Problem is when you’re the one doing the lifting and the others are a bunch of muscley brutes that’ll cave your skull in when you try.

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            13 hours ago

            Brilliant, unheard of, stunning, truly enlightened. If only there was a way for some major city to act on this sage advice along with every other election that occured three days ago.

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        17 hours ago

        If you don’t like your president, elect someone else. If you don’t like the presented options, pressure whatever party you think fits into providing better options.

        Unfortunately, what many outside the US don’t comprehend, is that this means waiting 3 more years. The last elections a couple of days ago already showed some change, next year’s will have more of an impact, but unlike parliamentary governments with votes of no confidence and automatic elections when a budget fails to get approved, the US is all mucking around on a beta version of Democracy and shorted out the check-and-balance circuit breaker so it no longer functions. Best to keep up the strength, but just the same exhausting.

        There is no magic button to remove the President as long as Congress/DoJ is useless, and removing Congress is outside the power of regular citizens as well. Only Congress can impeach Supreme Court Justices, so there’s a no go there either. Turns out running a country for almost 250 years on a gentleman’s agreement was a bad idea, who knew?

        The US is 9.8 million square kilometers in size too, so it isn’t like everyone can just overwhelm the White House and expect change. Worse, it isn’t even the size. It’s the survival. Healthcare and medication is coupled to employment, employment is coupled to showing up to work, many jobs have no concept of time off, and the ones that do often require months in advance notice. Lose your job, lose your healthcare, lose your mortgage, lose your car loan, become homeless and/or die. It is basically that simple for most Americans as the oligarchs in charge have run the population down to a paper-thin existence.

        You can tell how bad it has become reading all the news reports about how many Americans are now buying groceries using buy now pay later or credit cards. Groceries are food. Basic survival stuff. On credit.

        Of course, the path the US is on terminates in another (probably global) economic collapse, suffered worst in the US, so at that point it won’t much matter.

        Many would prefer it doesn’t go down that route, however, or a 2A civil war, or the many other violent ways it could play out.

        So one waits, and one hopes, while being extremely frustrated.

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          7 hours ago

          this means waiting 3 more years

          It won’t happen automatically. Somebody has to talk and listen to Trump’s voters and convince them to vote for somebody else. That takes time.

          That is, people also need to be prepared if there is no election.

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      13 hours ago

      Well your government has been making other people suffer across the world for centuries now. That never seemed to be an issue for Americans so not sure why we should start caring in return.

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            11 hours ago

            Gonna see if you have any self awareness, which I doubt since you’re coldly dismissing the wellbeing of 330 million people.

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              10 hours ago

              Because for close to 200 years those millions of people have happily stood back and done jack shit as their government terrorises billions across the globe.

              But typical Americans only give a fuck about themselves.

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                19 minutes ago

                You give us too much credit. It took us over a hundred years just to finish terrorizing our own country. Then maybe Americans were okay with Spanish war up to the Korean War. But I’ll tell you a majority pf American have been against all war since Vietnam in 1964 we just have no power. And Vietnam I would argue is where our reign of terror began. So you really mean 61 years of begging to stop going to war.