• Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com
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    Veganism is a luxury of modern times

    Plenty of vegans in India for centuries, not luxurious or modern. You can say that being vegan is hard in modern meat-oriented society, but then turn your critique towards the system and not towards the people telling you to go vegan. And I say this as a non-vegan.

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      You’re thinking of vegetarians, and it’s more commonly practiced by those who can afford to. Upper-class vegetarians fought to prevent eggs being given to impoverished school children in India.

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        There earliest proponent of veganism listed on Wikipedia is Abu al-Ala al-Ma’arri, roughly one thousand years ago. According to their source:

        “[Al-Maʿarri’s] diet was extremely frugal, consisting chiefly of lentils, with figs for sweet; and, very unusually for a Muslim, he was not only a vegetarian, but a vegan who abstained from meat, fish, dairy products, eggs, and honey, because he did not want to kill or hurt animals, or deprive them of their food.”

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        Al-Ma’arri held an antinatalist outlook, in line with his general pessimism, suggesting that children should not be born to spare them of the pains and suffering of life.

        I should read this guy’s work.

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          veganism as a term didn’t exist until the 1940s, and the philosophy is not the same as what al-ma’arri advocated.