• Jhex@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    since they often are doing high stakes operations,

    I guess pulling petite unarmed women by the hair would constitute “high stakes operations” for cowards

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      7 hours ago

      I’m assuming they were on their way somewhere else and the accident was a genuine mistake on their part (which they clearly handled very badly), mainly because they clearly seemed to be intent on just driving away until they noticed they were being filmed.

      However, if you have any evidence that they were targeting her specifically, and they rammed her car on purpose in order to get her to stop, I’m all eyes and ears.

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          2 hours ago

          Yes, sure, let’s just skip all the arguments and go straight to name calling.

          What are you, five years old?

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        4 hours ago

        you only assume all of that because you want to justify these cowards

        I guess according to you, they had a traffic aCciDEnt and then proceeded to beat and kidnap the woman they just rammed into… and thenelied about it to claim she tried to run them over?… and this is acceptable to you?

        kindly go fuck yourself

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        6 hours ago

        Doesn’t that make it worse? They tried to hit and run, realised they were being filmed, and decided instead to violently detain someone for no apparent reason.

        It’s also taking a lot of supposition that they were on their way to catch ‘bad guys’ already pumped with adrenaline and making mistakes, rather than the simpler explanation that this is just how they operate.

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          6 hours ago

          Just a minute ago, you were trying to convince me that violently pulling her out of the car was the worst thing they did, now we’re back to the hit-and-run, which we already discussed at the beginning of the thread. We’re kinda going in circles, aren’t we?

          And no, I’m not trying to excuse that either. They should have enough professionalism to admit when they fucked up, and be required to pay some sort of restitution so she can fix her car and pay for her medical bills.

          However, there might be more to the story that we don’t really know about, due to the lack of evidence about what happened right before the crash. At the bottom of the article, it states that ICE additionally accused her of having used her car to block their agents from getting through. While we can clearly see that the allegations that she rammed them on purpose are false, there is not enough evidence here to verify or dismiss that claim, but even interfering with them passively is something they are allowed to detain people for, if only temporarily.

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            6 hours ago

            Check who you’re replying to, that was my first comment in the thread. My point was that you’re doing a lot of stretching to come up with reasons why all of their conduct was fine. They hit her, but it’s OK because she was maybe blocking them. They were going go hit and run, but it’s OK because they’ve got important business to get to. They dragged her out the car and detained her, but it’s OK because they let her go several hours later (ignoring the lack of a real reason to detain her in the first place).

            How can you watch videos like this and your first response to be to leap to the defence of ICE?

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              3 hours ago

              Because intellectually and morally, he is one of them. Probably, he’s just too dweebish to be actually accepted as an “agent”, even by ICE…