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  • Miro Collas@masto.ai
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    3 days ago

    @BrainInABox Left AND right wing “pundits” are frequently cited. Sometimes there are editing “wars” where the two sides erase each other’s edits, but those are swiftly stopped and the issue is debated until a neutral consensus emerges.

    The right detest wikipedia because their lies are removed, so they created grokipedia. Some of the left hate it for the same reason. Bizarre

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      Right wing pundits are cited overwhelmingly more and given vastly more wait, often being treated as reliable and undisputed sources of truth. If you look at the largest sources of pro-Isreal propaganda over the last two years, there’s a good chance you’ll find them on Wikipedia’s trusted source list.

      those are swiftly stopped and the issue is debated until a neutral consensus emerges.

      No, what happens is that one side locks down the discussion, reverts all changes, refuses to debate in good faith, calls in sympathetic admins to discipline their opponents, locks the page, and, from personal experience, begins making organised attempts to dox dissenters. This is why dogshit right wing pundits like Anne Applebaum, and literal CIA propaganda outlets like Radio Free Asia, remain up as “reliable” sources permanently.

      The right detest wikipedia

      The far right detest it, the neoliberal centre right adore it for enshrining western supremacist neo-liberalism as cultural gospel.

      Some of the left hate it for the same reason.

      No, they hate it because the truth is removed and propaganda from entrenched neoliberal Zionist sources is treated as gospel.