Aren’t most of those requiring dedicated setup? How does that work without a pre-existing communication channel such as email to prep for them? You walk to every party you need to integrate?
Sorry, I don’t understand the words you’re using. Some of them are peer to peer. Some of them use servers which can be hosted by individuals. Some of them work locally over Bluetooth or WiFi.
Damn. They didn’t seem so wild especially compared to the flow of yours.
All mediums / techs you listed are complex technologies that take efforts to setup.
Compared to the ubiquitousness of email.
How do you propose to make that as available to the baseline human being?
Email is much more difficult to configure than most of these services. Some of them require no configuration at all. You just open the app, type in the recipient’s address, and Bob’s your uncle.
For others, it’s already available through community projects like AdminForge and Disroot.
Users don’t need to configure email that’s kind of the point… and the receiving side of most of your techs still had to eventually setup the server side right?
Adminforge is Linux tutorials, hardly something for the basic user. And disroot has not the best reputation if I can trust the few top links in my search results due to its gtc where they mentioned that they would collaborate in criminal investigations as well.
Users don’t need to configure email that’s kind of the point…
Users don’t “need” to configure these services either. That’s the entire point.
You can either configure it yourself, or use someone else’s that has configured it for you. Or you can choose one of the p2p apps that simply don’t require any configuration. That’s the entire point.
And disroot has not the best reputation if I can trust the few top links in my search results due to its gtc where they mentioned that they would collaborate in criminal investigations as well.
Much like Proton (and every other company/org), they have to either choose to comply or close up shop.
You should consider reviewing your baseline to integrate actual persons. Some need help to use WhatsApp so go figure how they would fare with most of those.
Are people that have trouble using Whatsapp typically overlapping with people looking for E2EE anonymous communications?
You can’t criticize software for being too hard for “baseline human beings” when your baseline is apparently boomers who lived most of their lives before the internet was widely available.
Ah no I was assuming we need privacy for everyone… but this would work as well. When working in responsible disclosure this is very much a problem. You want those channels open as wide as possible and as easy as possible.
And to a large extent I suspect boomers were a bit more into systems and protocols than the new gens.
Aren’t most of those requiring dedicated setup? How does that work without a pre-existing communication channel such as email to prep for them? You walk to every party you need to integrate?
Sorry, I don’t understand the words you’re using. Some of them are peer to peer. Some of them use servers which can be hosted by individuals. Some of them work locally over Bluetooth or WiFi.
Damn. They didn’t seem so wild especially compared to the flow of yours. All mediums / techs you listed are complex technologies that take efforts to setup. Compared to the ubiquitousness of email. How do you propose to make that as available to the baseline human being?
Email is much more difficult to configure than most of these services. Some of them require no configuration at all. You just open the app, type in the recipient’s address, and Bob’s your uncle.
For others, it’s already available through community projects like AdminForge and Disroot.
Users don’t need to configure email that’s kind of the point… and the receiving side of most of your techs still had to eventually setup the server side right? Adminforge is Linux tutorials, hardly something for the basic user. And disroot has not the best reputation if I can trust the few top links in my search results due to its gtc where they mentioned that they would collaborate in criminal investigations as well.
Users don’t “need” to configure these services either. That’s the entire point.
You can either configure it yourself, or use someone else’s that has configured it for you. Or you can choose one of the p2p apps that simply don’t require any configuration. That’s the entire point.
AdminForge runs a variety of services for public use.
Much like Proton (and every other company/org), they have to either choose to comply or close up shop.
But then you need to trust another party which is just moving the problem along…
These are your choices. There’s no other way.
But that was the entire point from the first reply. If you don’t trust external hosts, there is nothing for you.
The “baseline human being” can easily set up most of those.
You should consider reviewing your baseline to integrate actual persons. Some need help to use WhatsApp so go figure how they would fare with most of those.
Are people that have trouble using Whatsapp typically overlapping with people looking for E2EE anonymous communications?
You can’t criticize software for being too hard for “baseline human beings” when your baseline is apparently boomers who lived most of their lives before the internet was widely available.
Ah no I was assuming we need privacy for everyone… but this would work as well. When working in responsible disclosure this is very much a problem. You want those channels open as wide as possible and as easy as possible.
And to a large extent I suspect boomers were a bit more into systems and protocols than the new gens.
But keep on…