• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    An ICE officer may ignore evidence of American citizenship—including a birth certificate—if the app says the person is an alien

    Cool, so I guess that means I can ignore evidence of the person/people at the door being law enforcement before enforcing my 2nd Amendment rights and state self-defense laws that also allow me to shoot to protect others.

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      7 hours ago

      Yeah you can, but you’ll probably get killed. If you’re willing to do that though, then at least make it worthwhile

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      8 hours ago

      ICE don’t even show their ID do they? They think real police only have warrants and show their ID for no reason. They smahter than all of history combined you know. /s

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        7 hours ago

        That depends on who you ask, but likely the courts would side with a citizen requesting ID. The policy seems to be that they must “when it is practical and safe to do so.”

        AFAIK, this issue has not been tried in court though.

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          37 minutes ago

          What is the odds that court is where you go?

          There’s so many other outcomes I keep hearing about in your news, but I don’t know the odds.

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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        7 hours ago

        Yup. If someone is abducting someone else and doesn’t self-identify, that sounds like an open and shut self-defense case, provided you survive the encounter.