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The article doesn’t have a picture, so I went digging.
It said its team was “investigating how these listings circumvented our screening measures”.
Clearly Shien “screening measures” are a joke.
what size are these? They literally look like doll size. like barbie doll size.
Not quite. You can see in the listing that it’s 61 cm, which is about two feet, approx the age of a 3-4 year old.
Ok that makes some sense. I was like, what you stick the barbie up your ass???
No of course not, the heads pop off too easy. Now stretch Armstrong, that dudes a different story.
Jesus, that’s completely fucked.
People lose their goddamn minds. Who cares if someone wants to fuck a doll?
“Sir, this piece of plastic seems to be underage, you are going to have to wait until it’s over 18 years to fuck it.”
Presumably the thinking is that simulated acts beget real ones.
I have no idea if that’s scientifically valid or not. Anybody got links to high quality peer reviewed sources?
I can see the argument there, but I can also see the argument that it prevents real ones by offering a good-enough alternative. I don’t think there’s a lot of peer review on the subject, for obvious reasons.
Maybe it neither prevents nor causes. Maybe the kind of person who would buy a doll was already non-offending (which describes the vast, vast majority of pedophiles)
But this also misses the point. How can it be a crime to fuck a doll?
People worrying whether it causes future harm act like we don’t allow all kinds of other shit that’s much more harmful to our future selves and society. Like, there’s some pretty fucked up porn out there that’s totally legal and probably damages everybody’s brain. We (Americans) also live in a society that allows firearms to be sold at Walmart. We sell cars and debt to 16-year-olds. Alcohol–addictive, causes violence and many health issues-- is pervasive in every strata and facet of our society
So how is importing and fucking a doll worthy of being a criminal offense-- regardless of what it’s shaped like? Like, what if I just made a fuckdoll at home? Should that also be a crime? What if I modified a toy doll in my garage to be fuckable? Should that also be a crime?
By that logic we should ban toy guns, video games that feature guns, CNC sex play… I can go on
We need a correlation between paintball and school shooting
simulated acts beget real ones.
Yeah I’ve heard that argument before, but never saw any logic in it.
I’ve played every GTA game. Yet I have never had the desire or thought to start jacking people’s cars, or shooting random pedestrians with an ak-47, or whatever.
I think anybody who’s a fan of videogames would see that argument as pretty weak. But what do I know.
Yes I too have been killing people violently in videogames for decades. IIRC, there actually has been a lot of study and very little correlation.
The question here is about real physical sex with realistic child dolls being done presumably by pederasts.
It’s not at all obvious to me that the psychology work the same in both cases.
I on the other hand am always shooting people with arrows and bonking them with two handed swords made of granite.
Regrettably there are not too many high quality researchers who endeavor to put their names on such studies.
I remember seeing something about instances of child SA being lower in countries with no laws against fictional CP (drawings or youthful-looking adults), but that was a long time ago, and I don’t know how valid it is. Even if it is useful as a treatment, I think it might be best if such materials were available only via prescription.
The venne diagram of people who would buy this and actual pedophiles is a circle.
Anyone who’s indulging in this kind of content is literally masturbating to simulated child abuse and that kind of degenerate behavior is a concern to the community.
I don’t think they should be punished but they should be forced to get help and monitored.
You never know if the guy is buying that to put a bunny head on it because he actually has a furry fetish and wants to fuck that Zootopia character (as per the picture other user posted, the head is not included in the product)… do we consider furries dangerous around pets? I really don’t know, because maybe someone buying that doll is actually attracted to some anime character and not real people, and I guess it’s a similar fetish or paraphilia - they get aroused by a distorted image of people and pets, not by actual people and pets.
I’m all for shipping it with a warning message about seeking help, or even putting pictures like they do on cigarette packs (“This is what a pedophile’s butthole looks like in prison” - it has 37 knife holes on it). But regardless of how disturbing and disgusting I may find it, I also find it none of my business if no one is actually being hurt by it. We consume more pornography than ever and have less sex than ever. If a guy is getting his satisfaction from having a fantasy with a piece of plastic, good for him, preventing him from doing that won’t make him any less of a pedophile (if that’s the reason he bought the doll). I’d be more worried if he had no other safe means of relief.
I swear .ml is a magnet for the most chronically online individuals.
The mental gymnastics and tour de France of degeneracy required to still not wipe your hands of the pedophile aura should be enshrined in some hall of fame or museum for internet history.
I don’t believe thinking of a crime equals to committing it, regardless of what crime it is, and that’s it.
I couldn’t care less about how the piece of plastic someone wants to fuck looks like, it’s just plastic. I just disputed your idea of the venn diagram because the doll is headless, you can put anything in there and project whatever you want - unless you consider furries, those otakus with pillow wives, and other stuff like that, a danger to children as well… hell, I know a fella from TV that might want to put a Green M&M face on that doll.
Showing a clear interest in that is reason enough for concern
