• masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 days ago

    Communism would be sound if human beings were actually honorable

    Just say you don’t have the foggiest clue what political ideology is all about - there’s no reason to dress it up like this.

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      3 days ago

      Sure, dude. I hereby declare that I’m a rather normal and generic person, have no political degree, and am generally uneducated on the finer nuances and only know the broad strokes of various ideologies. Regardless, no one needs higher education to recognize the reality that humans are not creating any form of utopia. That simply isn’t going to happen. A brief glance at history is more than enough to show the rise and fall of nations and that nothing lasts, and humans have never been able to make it last even under good environmental conditions because they, themselves, are an utter mess.

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        to recognize the reality that humans are not creating any form of utopia.

        So you don’t know anything… except you know everything.

        A brief glance at history

        Maybe next time try to go for two glances - then you might stop yourself next time from exposing yourself as somebody who doesn’t know anything while also (somehow) entitling yourself to expertise on the thing you don’t know anything about.

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          3 days ago

          I never called myself an expertise on anything, but it looks like you’re trying to. You don’t need higher education to see the obvious.

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            So this is just…

            I never called myself an expertise

            …you hiding behind false modesty?

            Just a few short minutes ago you were entitling yourself to expertise on the beliefs of communists… where did all that knowledge all of a sudden go, eh?

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      Hey, all the evils are done by humans, right? So why are you so fast to say human nature doesn’t matter at all? Literally every failure of ANY political system is a human failing. A human failing to lead properly, a human failing to hold leaders accountable, a human failing to etc…

      People like you want to act like the 1% are some other species and the rest of us are just “normal people being taken advantage of”. That’s complete bullshit. Our inability to organize and stand up for each other is just as much a part of human nature as it is to be greedy and accumulate resources.

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        So why are you so fast to say human nature doesn’t matter at all?

        Ok, liberal… lead by example.

        How much responsibility do you, personally, carry for all the rape, torture and murder that has been perpetrated in the name of “western civilisation” since the 16th-century?

        And what are you, personally, going to do to make up for all of that?

        a human failing to hold leaders accountable,

        Right, right… do tell, lib - how have you “held” your (so-called) “leaders” accountable today?

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          So because I disagree with you, you decide to be a dick. Thanks for proving my point about human nature. It’s way more animalistic than we’re willing to admit, but your actions speak for themselves.

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            15 hours ago

            Thanks for proving my point about human nature.

            I’m sure my text cut really deep, everlasting scars into your psyche - be sure to go see a therapist and tell them that some internet discourse did more emotional damage to you than existence during late-stage capitalism did.

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              14 hours ago

              When told you’re a dick, you become a bigger dick. Huh… Human nature really at work today.

              You think I give a fuck? I’m taking a shit laughing at you right now.

              Go on, keep crying about how unfair the world is while you act like a twat and wonder why no one wants to help you out 😂

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                14 hours ago

                While you’re with the therapist, remember to tell them your theories about (what you call) “human nature.” That way, they won’t have to waste too much time figuring out what is wrong with you.