• dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world
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    Also Alan Turing if he were alive today: “We now have access to billions of times more computing power than I did, and the world uses it for what!?”

    Edit: A major flaw with Turing’s premise is that the test is not time-bound. At first blush, a conversation with an LLM is kind of miraculous compared to what we had before. But ample exposure to any LLM reveals its lack of intelligence; it just takes time.

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      This here is a USB charger. It uses a CPU to figure out if you connected a Samsung Phone for 50W charging, or if it should do the default 2.5W charging profile.

      It’s processing power? Uhhh, about 4Million clocks/sec with 640,000 bytes of memory. Oh yeah I guess about 5-million bits.

      Oh this other thing? That’s a mouse. It tells the computer if my hand moved forward or backwards or left or right. It runs a fourier transform over an infrared image and memorizes the desk. It performs a full image process / fourier transform 100 times a second to accurately track our hands and clicks. The USB connection is also a network of networks consisting of a ReedSolomon error correction code for reliable transmission at a bit over 10-million baud transfer rate.


      Our real computers are doing… Porn. AI generated porn.


      Fun fact: USB Chargers have more processing power and RAM than fucking the Lunar Lander / Apollo Space Program. Figuring out if Samsung phone or not-samsung Phone has so much processing power allocated to the task it’s kind of hilarious

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      Idk. The people I know who use LLMs the most are also the people who use human pronouns on them and think they’re conscious. It’s like the people who use them a medium amount who aren’t fooled, and I think it’s because the people who get really really into it are just all in mo matter what and just ignore any issues and the people who had a few conversations and were amazed don’t get a lot of utility out of it.

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      Tracking each other. Is Tim Berners Lee even happy about the situation?

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      Yeah, an LLM that’s good enough at imitating human speech and writing can pass the test easily even though it’s just a program stringing words together. Nothing remotely approaching actual thought.

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      Doubt he’d be pissed about that. He’d probably be fairly happy about the progress.

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          I once shacked up with a bloke whose entire back was covered in scars. He’d been taken in by police and whipped because he was gay. Once even the memory of that ever having happened is gone I’ll accept that LGBTQ+ people are generally accepted.

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      Turing devised the Turing test as a way of ever confirming whether or not an AI is “alive”: if it can fool humans into thinking it’s another human and not a machine, then it passes.

      The recent advances in llms show quite clearly that it turns out you can fool humans into thinking you’re also a human quite easily, thus he would probably revise his test.

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      Today’s “artificial intelligence” has no real intelligence. No more than your phone’s autocorrect. At best, it is simulated intelligence. We should call it “fake intelligence.”

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    I guess it all depends on context. If somebody did a Turing Test about 10 years ago with GPT-5 level LLMs I guess it would have fooled practically everybody. Today everybody knows what modern LLMs are capable of so we would als different questions. For example “Let’s play tic tac toe” 🤣

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    Given that the framing of the Turing test was as a man pretending to be a woman, one wonders whether Turing’s pronouns today would still be he/him.

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    If you can easily trip up AIs by asking certain questions. Do they really pass the Turing test?