Literally everything you just said is plain factually incorrect
Riiiiight, because you literally know better than my own eyes, someone who grew up in a farm and is currently living in rural region with many farms within 25km radius. See the batshit crazy part I’m talking about?
What it really comes down to is extreme avoidance of confronting your own cognitive dissonance. No one wants to believe that they do wrong. No one likes being confronted about their injustices. Your rights to live the way you want do not justify the harms that come to others as a result of that.
Again, I never said what I’m doing is moral, you’re once again arguing something imaginary, going on a loop, like a batsh…
Those animals do not want to die no matter how tasty you think their flesh is. There’s nothing religious or extreme about that, it’s just a moral baseline.
Good job completely missing my entire point and deflecting it towards something completely else. At least you know your logical fallacy game, but no, once again, I never said the things you’re claiming.
Crop deaths have been thoroughly debunked, the numbers of animals killed as a result of crop harvesting is so extremely overexaggerated that they are practically made up.
This is false and, ironically, debunked, but whatever feeda your cognitive affirmation.
Note that these are scientific papers, not news articles from buzzfeed and note that these are estimates, but backed by fairly trustable data and sources.
And once again, we can also use our own eyes. I know, its easier to trust random internet strangers who give you information that you want to hear, but I’m no longer seeing many cool species that were quite common 2 decades ago around fields that get sprayed, and then there’s mountains of dead critters/insects. If pesticides were found to cause cancer in humans, think about what it does to smaller, more sensitive bodies, but no one really likes to talk about it because megacorporations like Monsanto are already getting too much attention, so they’d rather pay an university student to make a paper about how everything is fine while science itself is ringing alarm bells left and right.
And regardless of how many animals die of crop deaths, that would still be reason to eat plants instead of animals because animals need to be fed too, and it takes significantly more crops to feed animals for food than it takes to just eat plants directly.
That was never my argument. My argument was about the fact that there is no ethical mass produced food source on the planet, so stop acting all righteous and holy when your industry is killing the planet too.
Once again, I must ask you to leave other people alone. Let them live how they want. Things will go their natural way. Lab meat is going to likely become mainstream, pesticides are getting more and more regulated or sometimes even banned, etc. If you want to make a real change, become a scientist and start figuring out ways to mass-manufacture food in better ways.
Have you ever actually taken the time to just suspend your prejudice and actually hear what vegans have to say?
Once again, stop acting like we live in the dark. My own sister is a vegan who basically never shuts up about it. I’ve heard it all.
Riiiiight, because you literally know better than my own eyes, someone who grew up in a farm and is currently living in rural region with many farms within 25km radius. See the batshit crazy part I’m talking about?
Again, I never said what I’m doing is moral, you’re once again arguing something imaginary, going on a loop, like a batsh…
Good job completely missing my entire point and deflecting it towards something completely else. At least you know your logical fallacy game, but no, once again, I never said the things you’re claiming.
This is false and, ironically, debunked, but whatever feeda your cognitive affirmation.
Note that these are scientific papers, not news articles from buzzfeed and note that these are estimates, but backed by fairly trustable data and sources.
https://mdpi-res.com/d_attachment/animals/animals-11-01225/article_deploy/animals-11-01225-v2.pdf
https://r.jordan.im/download/crop-deaths/fischer2018.pdf
And once again, we can also use our own eyes. I know, its easier to trust random internet strangers who give you information that you want to hear, but I’m no longer seeing many cool species that were quite common 2 decades ago around fields that get sprayed, and then there’s mountains of dead critters/insects. If pesticides were found to cause cancer in humans, think about what it does to smaller, more sensitive bodies, but no one really likes to talk about it because megacorporations like Monsanto are already getting too much attention, so they’d rather pay an university student to make a paper about how everything is fine while science itself is ringing alarm bells left and right.
That was never my argument. My argument was about the fact that there is no ethical mass produced food source on the planet, so stop acting all righteous and holy when your industry is killing the planet too.
Once again, I must ask you to leave other people alone. Let them live how they want. Things will go their natural way. Lab meat is going to likely become mainstream, pesticides are getting more and more regulated or sometimes even banned, etc. If you want to make a real change, become a scientist and start figuring out ways to mass-manufacture food in better ways.
Once again, stop acting like we live in the dark. My own sister is a vegan who basically never shuts up about it. I’ve heard it all.