• turdcollector69@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    I think not running Walz when he was clearly way more popular than Kamala was when we lost.

    The moment Kamala was announced I knew we were cooked.

    Until we have a dem president who isn’t just a corporate ghoul wrapped in a rainbow flag there won’t be significant change. So I’m basically just waiting for AOC to run to get excited.

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      8 hours ago

      I gotta say man. Have you seen this country?

      As much as I hate it, and would love to have a progressive POC woman in the white house, that is suuuuuuuch a nerf to her electability.

      More than that, we aren’t getting progressives any time soon. We can wish for it, but it just isnt a reality and we need to acknoledge that and have the hard discussion about the FACT that you’re going to need to support exactly the boring neoliberal bullshit you hate.

      Why am I so confident saying that?

      Multiple reasons.

      1. The DNC, as we all know, is lead by and mostly houses boring neoliberals.

      2. The DNC heads all aggressively fight against progressive candidates.

      3. Even if you get a progressive candidate to win, they still have to run policies by the rest of the DNC in order to get the votes for them to pass. This is a reality of the systems.

      4. Many progressive changes we all want are impossible without a super majority in the senate, and thats unlikely with the DNC how it is.

      5. Just as Biden actually did in many areas, a progressive candidate can spam executive orders to make agencies run with more progressive goals and intents but ultimately this only lasts as long as there is a progressive in the highest seat.

      6. This hypothetical progressive would also have to constantly be on their tip toes due to a supreme court that once again cannot be tacked without immense levels of support that are completely implausible.

      I hate to say it, but the reality is boring, unfun and will take far longer than a single term to achieve anything remotely close to what many of us want.

      Democrats have to keep winning, and then people have to keep voting in progressives in primaries and local/state politics despite knowing that they ultimately won’t have much power to change things until they hit a critical mass.

      That is just the reality of how this political system works, and to change it, you need even more support than the house and super majority senate.

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        5 hours ago

        More than that, we aren’t getting progressives any time soon

        Funny that you say that a week before Zohran is almost certainly going to be elected

        I get what you’re saying, and understand your reasoning. 10 years ago, I would have agreed with you. Now though, I disagree with you. For better or worse, Trump has shown us rapid political change can happen in America

        When the pendulum swings back, progressives have a real shot. Democrats need a candidate they can actually get excited about, not another Biden or Hillary, and I think there will be enough political momentum after Trump to get it

        …That is assuming we have another free and fair election. Trump certainly will fight tooth and nail to prevent it

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          5 hours ago

          The thing is that the DNC does not support this. Zorhan is putting up a big fight.

          The republicans, the second they saw trumps popularity jumped to support him and his corruption. More than that, they don’t have morals and only have the goal of hurting people, specifically marginalized people, and so it’s easier for them to all support a leader spouting crap.

          Democrats are picky because there are so many actually valid political opinions outside of just hate and corruption, and of course the elephant in the room is the billionaire donors the Ig wigs at the DNC listen to more than you and I. that’s why I’m saying it’s not any time soon, becuase a progressive won’t be able to do significant change and every progressive will be fighting uphill both ways.