• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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    8 hours ago

    Did those “libertarians” vote for Trump last election? What’s their take on Jan 6? I have a sneaking suspicion they’re conservatives who like weed, not libertarians.

    You’re right that libertarians don’t want government involved in as many parts of daily life as possible. That’s where the support comes from for things like drug legalization/decriminalization, gay marriage, gun rights, etc. Wikipedia is part of that, it was created and is maintained independently, and whether it’s funded by donations, ads, or subscriptions is irrelevant. As long as government isn’t involved, libertarians are happy.

    Here’s a quote I love from Penn Jillette (from memory, may have mistakes):

    Government should only use violence for things I am willing to use violence for. I would use violence to stop a rape or a murder. I would not use violence to build a library.

    He goes on say he supports libraries and would fund one if someone came around asking for donations.

    That’s pretty much exactly what Wikipedia is, it’s a privately created, publicly available library that runs on donations, which is a libertarian wet dream. If everything good could be funded that way (charities for a social safety net, police for law enforcement, military for national defense, etc), that would be a libertarian utopia. Since that’s not feasible, libertarians want as many functions as possible to exist outside of government and carefully audit the rest.

    I personally believe a social safety net cannot be independent, so I support something like UBI to replace our coercive and often subjective welfare programs and ensure everyone is above the poverty line. I also believe small companies should have legal protections (e.g. limited liability structures we have today), and large companies shouldn’t (they can buy insurance if they want), so a lawsuit or bankruptcy could go after shareholder and executive team assets.

    Many libertarians disagree with me on specifics (a libertarian’s most bitter rival is another libertarian), but we agree on the foundational idea that less is more when it comes to government.

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      That’s sounds pretty close to where I’m at now. Ideally I want a libertarian society, but I don’t believe it will work in practice in a lot of areas (like health care or completely unregulated capitalism). On those issues I’m more aligned with the Green Party.

      I’m not sure what the “best” solutions are, but I know wealth and power are way to consolidated now and we need to decentralize.

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        1 hour ago

        I don’t believe it will work in practice in a lot of areas

        Perhaps, and ideally we can iterate on ideas to see what works and what doesn’t. I don’t like any big policy change, regardless of how it aligns with my priorities, I instead want a gradual change so it’s less disruptive to the market and we get cleaner feedback.