• fosho@lemmy.ca
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    where Gaines placed in a sports competition is precisely relevant and needed to be pointed out. perhaps you’re suggesting the way it was done could have been more polite?

    but… why? when they are actively seeking out eradication why do you insist that being polite about facts is important?

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      5th place in the NCAA national championship? Yeah that’s still quite an accomplishment. It is impressive.

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      sigh For the umpteenth time, because actually being right about what you’re claiming to be right about matters. Even if they blamed their crappy showing on a trans competitor, the only thing that should be attacked is the shifting of responsibility, not the physical prowess.

      I admit that interpretation a matter of perspective, but I don’t feel the fact that’s how it came off to me is irrelevant because it’s unlikely I’d be the only one to see that. Even if it were, it certainly doesn’t rate the absolute level of vitriol I’ve received here.

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        AOC is right and that quip does attack the shifting of responsibility.

        In one simple statement AOC pointed out that Riley wouldn’t have won the race she used to build her anti-trans platform. The swimmer has been careful to present herself as a champion, when in reality she started her campaign after tying for fifth place with a trans woman.

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          Fair enough. The fact I’m personally uncomfortable involving someone’s physical abilities in a rebuttal to a shitty take - even though said take revolved around such - doesn’t mean it’s necessarily wrong. I fear it could be misconstrued (deliberately or not) as attacking the body, not the person - something I am afraid could be used to diminish the strength of our arguments against such crap, but I’ll agree that’s also probably a matter of interpretation.

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            If someone doesn’t know what the issue is about, why does their opinion matter?

            This is the internet, literally anything can be misconstrued. Someone on here called me a nazi yesterday. If you check my modlog I was banned from a community for fascism.

            Criticizing a valid, informed statement about an issue that’s challenging people’s identities because of how it might appear is like clutching pearls while your house is on fire.