As millions of Americans are about to go hungry due to the US government refusing to fund SNAP, just remember that only two countries voted against making food a basic human right. The US and the terrorist colony of Israel

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    Shy of magic, that’s not a policy you can implement. Either people in a region have access to food or they don’t. You can’t just put a stamp on a loaf of bread that makes it inedible to anyone carrying a gun.

    1. Again - I believe Albert was specifically talking about denying food from the soldiers of the invading enemy army.

      Unless the enemy is in there long enough to start farming your land, their only have two options to get food - they can bring it from their home country (or some other country they control, or one that’s friendly enough to sell it to them) or they can try to get it from your country. You can sabotage their first option by attacking their supply lines, and as for the second option - hopefully your own citizens won’t give them food, either because they don’t want to be invaded or because they are afraid of their own government. Or both. Either way, you’ll have to protect them, of course, because the invading army may try to steal food from them.

      Even if you do everything right you probably won’t be able to hermetically block their food supply - but you may be able to dwindle it enough to starve them. It takes a lot of food to feed an army.

    2. Regardless - never underestimate the human ingenuity when it comes to inflicting harm on other human beings.

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      denying food from the soldiers of the invading enemy army.

      How do you deliver food to a local population so an invading army can’t get it?

      you may be able to dwindle it enough to starve them

      Who is going to starve first? The folks with guns or the folks without?

      never underestimate the human ingenuity when it comes to inflicting harm on other human beings.

      Right. I guess the UN teasing the idea of famine relief and pulling back on it is part of that.

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        You’ll need to send your own army anyway to protect your people from the invading enemy, and one of the duties of the troops stated there is to make sure your resources are not stolen by the enemy.

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          You’ll need to send your own army anyway

          UN “Peacekeepers” have their own historical baggage to carry, especially in Sub-Saharan Africa. If food distribution is predicated on foreign military occupation, its not a human right.

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            I’m not sure we are on the same page here. I’m claiming that since the invaded country needs to send its own troops (not UN troops) to protect its land and its people from the invading army, then the soldiers of the invaded country are positioned to make sure the resources of the invaded country reach to the citizens of the invaded country and not get stolen by the invading army.

            At no point in this process any country needs to sends forces to another country to protect the nutritional rights of the citizens of that other country.

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              the soldiers of the invaded country are positioned to make sure the resources of the invaded country reach to the citizens of the invaded country

              That’s never been how military operations function in practice. The primary goal of a military advance is to seize and hold the most defensible territory, not to secure supplies to a civilian population caught in the no-man’s land between fronts.

              Again, this goes back to the Israel/Gaza conflict. Palestinian anti-IDF insurgents were in no position to attack Israeli border guards at Rafa to open up aid from Egypt. Or secure fishing along the Mediterranean coast, much less to launch a naval war and open aid from Turkiye or mainland Europe. Their primary mission was survival and countersurveillance against Israeli strikes. Their secondary goal was decapitation of Israeli military and seizure of Israeli military assets. Trying to open up trade wasn’t something they could begin to consider in their current depleted state.

              At no point in this process any country needs to sends forces to another country to protect the nutritional rights of the citizens of that other country.

              If one country has the ability to lay siege to another and starve its people, and no other country has an obligation to break the siege and deliver food to the civilian population, then there is no “human right to food” in any tangible sense.

              You might as well tell Eric Garner “You have a right to breath, but I have no obligation to get that boot off your neck”. Its exactly the kind of meaningless faux-humanitarian double-speak that defines the modern UN.