• PugJesus@piefed.socialOPM
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    2 days ago

    Sure, but that’s like 1/10 to 1/3 of a design for a stable society.

    That’s just the proposal for changes, not for a totalitarian reorganization of human existence.

    Again, this is like critiquing a dentist’s proposal for filling a cavity for not explaining how the full human being functions. The point of change is the tooth, not the full human being.

    There is a half baked plan for transitioning from a unfair society to a more fair one and no plan at all for keeping it that way?

    There are multiple ideas for how to transition from an unfair society, and Marx himself espoused the idea that different societies might need different solutions. The only one that has been conclusively tried and disproven is the ML system of “Give all power to a small group of elites and they’ll eventually give power back to the workers, pinky-promise”, which anyone with half a fucking brain could see wasn’t going to work out.

    Put another way - what exactly do you think the point of failure would be if, in Spain, private capitalist corporations no longer predominated, and groups like the Mondragon Corporation dominated the economy instead?

    If you insist, but that doesn’t solve the problem, if anything you’re widening the scope. That’s why I mean we understand each other’s positions. You think the economic situation is more important and I disagree and would rather want something stable first that can maintain whatever economic solution we end up with.

    I’m literally not saying the economic situation is more important. This is exactly what I’m talking about when I say that you aren’t understanding the argument.