• CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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    18 hours ago

    There are places in the world where healthcare is a human right. The people providing healthcare get paid. This is a solved problem.

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      18 hours ago

      That is a good argument. And overall it’s been shown that having free healthcare saves money in the long run and leads to better quality of life. As would free basic housing probably. And free food. And free phones/internet. I am personally quite in favour of UBI which covers this. But at some point people are disincentivized to work / be productive. And that’s a problem because humans are rather lazy when they can be. And we need people to be productive so that we can produce housing, food, healthcare, phones, internet, etc. Clearly things are out of whack now with housing costs too high compared to salaries. But I just don’t think going full communist would work.

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        15 hours ago

        Who said anything about full communist? This is about landlords.

        I am personally quite in favour of UBI which covers this. But at some point people are disincentivized to work / be productive. And that’s a problem…

        Pick a fucking lane.

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          14 hours ago

          ‘Full communist’ as in everyone gets everything for free from the government. Like free healthcare, housing etc. if you don’t want landlords but people can’t afford to buy, the only other option is free stuff from the government.
          I like the idea of UBI at a fairly low rate - ie just enough to survive ok - and with no clawbacks (for a certain level) - that way people have a safety net and aren’t beholden 100% to employers, but are incentivized to find a job however small to improve their lot. It would be good for people’s mental health. It encourages an upward spiral, and employers can’t be completely shitty.
          However you still need landlords - they offer rental arrangements for people who can’t buy.

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            13 hours ago

            the only other option is free stuff from the government.

            I like the idea of UBI

            Pick a fucking lane.