Was gonna type out explanations about how treating housing, something we all need, like capital is inherently evil. But if you don’t get why landlords are leeches you’re either one of them and/or you’ve never been anything approaching poor. I can’t imagine thinking there is worth derived from hoarding housing and gouging people to live in it .
It’s like trying to debate that the Earth isn’t flat. You could spend the time and effort doing it, but you know they’ll never actually change their mind.
You’re making the wrong reading. You’re not wrong. They just don’t move on that dimension let alone give a flying fuck about the one you think you live in.
They don’t learn because they don’t care about what you think learning is. I’m not at all defending them either. I’m trying to show anyone willing to learn about perspectives beyond their own experience of what they think is real.
Defending Flat Earthers or Landlording is a lot like Defending Jim Jones. I don’t mean to defend any of them. But the sake of expanding perspective one absolute must swallow the perception a good defense would make to do so for them.
So take that and consider this. Jim Jones was doing good shit by showing everyone that Kool-Aid is what it is. Of course, the noose said otherwise and it was just that church that died from his move.
Now go ask Mark Whittaker and watch his movie about what happened shortly after that.
Here, have some High Fructose Corn Syrup with that notion.
What do you think sugar is?
When was the last time you asked a real question about what reality really is?
Money isn’t real. But the longer you treat it like it is, even after it eats the soul of every human and continues to not even be a shred of it, you will lose yours.
For many places with poor or no public transit, you can add transit to that list too. And having a phone. Impossible to hold down a job if you can’t get there or you don’t have a phone number.
Corbyn wanted to do a 4 four day week, a Bank Holiday a month, and free Internet for us over here…instead we got the shit show that are the Conservatives.
Never been a landlord. I own now (well the bank does and I pay my mortgage), but I’ve spent my time paying rent. I found a place and paid the askiging amount as it was worth it to me And when the landlord upped the rent unreasonably, I told them to fuck off and moved. True, I haven’t been poor by many standards. And I’m sure it sucks to not have enough to pay for necessities. I would want the government to provide a safety net, but I think if everyone just gets everything handed to them, we’d be a lot less of a productive society. And that’s bad, as a productive society increases quality of life for all.
but I think if everyone just gets everything handed to them, we’d be a lot less of a productive society.
That’s what we call a personal opinion that has absolutely zero shreds of historical evidence. AKA a YOU problem.
You think this because that is what you imagine that you would do, and are projecting it onto the rest of us. The rest of us aren’t lazy like you want to be.
My laziness is immaterial. I’m not a landlord or a renter. But communism isn’t very successful really. Most places that tried it are dirt poor and don’t have enough housing and what they do have is pretty shitty. And most are bringing in some sort of ‘competitive market place’. And corruptions is a huge problem (even worse than in capitalist states). China is the big example here and Cuba is another.
You projecting that laziness on everyone else is certainly material. Communism hasn’t been allowed to even be tried there is no imperial evidence that it doesn’t work, and a fair bit of empirical evidence that it does work properly when you stop putting a single person in charge.
My laziness isn’t the issue. But yes the laziness of humans is, and it’s very real and not a terrible thing - it leads to efficiencies. Communism has maybe worked in small commmunities. But I think you’d find some people still get fucked over in those communities.
Was gonna type out explanations about how treating housing, something we all need, like capital is inherently evil. But if you don’t get why landlords are leeches you’re either one of them and/or you’ve never been anything approaching poor. I can’t imagine thinking there is worth derived from hoarding housing and gouging people to live in it .
It’s like trying to debate that the Earth isn’t flat. You could spend the time and effort doing it, but you know they’ll never actually change their mind.
You’re making the wrong reading. You’re not wrong. They just don’t move on that dimension let alone give a flying fuck about the one you think you live in.
They don’t learn because they don’t care about what you think learning is. I’m not at all defending them either. I’m trying to show anyone willing to learn about perspectives beyond their own experience of what they think is real.
Defending Flat Earthers or Landlording is a lot like Defending Jim Jones. I don’t mean to defend any of them. But the sake of expanding perspective one absolute must swallow the perception a good defense would make to do so for them.
So take that and consider this. Jim Jones was doing good shit by showing everyone that Kool-Aid is what it is. Of course, the noose said otherwise and it was just that church that died from his move.
Now go ask Mark Whittaker and watch his movie about what happened shortly after that.
Here, have some High Fructose Corn Syrup with that notion.
What do you think sugar is?
When was the last time you asked a real question about what reality really is?
Money isn’t real. But the longer you treat it like it is, even after it eats the soul of every human and continues to not even be a shred of it, you will lose yours.
You really drank the Flavor Aid, didn’t you?
Hell no. I don’t even drink soda.
Housing…and food, water, clothes. Internet, cause how else are you supposed to maintain a job?
For many places with poor or no public transit, you can add transit to that list too. And having a phone. Impossible to hold down a job if you can’t get there or you don’t have a phone number.
Agree with both.
Corbyn wanted to do a 4 four day week, a Bank Holiday a month, and free Internet for us over here…instead we got the shit show that are the Conservatives.
Never been a landlord. I own now (well the bank does and I pay my mortgage), but I’ve spent my time paying rent. I found a place and paid the askiging amount as it was worth it to me And when the landlord upped the rent unreasonably, I told them to fuck off and moved. True, I haven’t been poor by many standards. And I’m sure it sucks to not have enough to pay for necessities. I would want the government to provide a safety net, but I think if everyone just gets everything handed to them, we’d be a lot less of a productive society. And that’s bad, as a productive society increases quality of life for all.
That’s what we call a personal opinion that has absolutely zero shreds of historical evidence. AKA a YOU problem.
You think this because that is what you imagine that you would do, and are projecting it onto the rest of us. The rest of us aren’t lazy like you want to be.
My laziness is immaterial. I’m not a landlord or a renter. But communism isn’t very successful really. Most places that tried it are dirt poor and don’t have enough housing and what they do have is pretty shitty. And most are bringing in some sort of ‘competitive market place’. And corruptions is a huge problem (even worse than in capitalist states). China is the big example here and Cuba is another.
“if landlords are bad how come communism hasn’t been successful?”
Wtf?
You projecting that laziness on everyone else is certainly material. Communism hasn’t been allowed to even be tried there is no imperial evidence that it doesn’t work, and a fair bit of empirical evidence that it does work properly when you stop putting a single person in charge.
My laziness isn’t the issue. But yes the laziness of humans is, and it’s very real and not a terrible thing - it leads to efficiencies. Communism has maybe worked in small commmunities. But I think you’d find some people still get fucked over in those communities.
In the 1970s, the Soviet Union was building over two million housing units per year, more than any other developed economy in the world.
China literally executes corrupt politicians, what the fuck are you talking about