The people partially responsible for its results saying anyone else is carrying water is insanity.
The mid terms are not too long from now (if remotely free elections will exist thanks partially to them), so the idea that it’s all over so let’s let all the marginalized people die because we weren’t happy enough letting all the gazans die is a hell of a take from the people saying they aren’t pro genocide.
The people who spent all of 2024 warning you what would happen. The people that your wing of the party loved genocide too much to listen to. The people who were too insignificant to listen to are now so important that they’re to blame.
Fuck that. You ignored people who knew better than you did because you wanted genocide that badly, and there isn’t a centrist who doesn’t prefer trump over telling netanyahu no.
Spending your time warning us that the thing you partially are responsible for happening happening is sooooo brave and very strong.
The idea that literally doing marketting for voter apathy in the most important election of the past multiple decades is a sane take is tantrum throwing naivety.
You all, almost certainly not visibly marginalized people made awful decisions that other people had to pay the price for first. Probably the only socialism you actually believe in.
The people that your wing of the party loved genocide too much to listen to.
You aren’t making some poignant criticism, this is a child throwing their food off the pram because they’re annoyed they need food to eat, and it isn’t exactly what they want.
You are champagne socialists who act like you’re better than the people being realistic because not getting your hands dirty is doing no work towards the goals you pretend to have.
You ignored people who knew better than you did because you wanted genocide that badly, and there isn’t a centrist who doesn’t prefer trump over telling netanyahu no.
The fact you argue against made up strawmen like this is everything I need to know. You spend time arguing against strawmen as you have no argument with weight.
You have no arguments against anything I’ve actually said.
No practical leftist is happy with the Israeli genocide. Real, actual, non children realize that just because both options lead to some amount of harm does not mean they are the same, nor does it mean there is a magic third option.
There was no primary this time, and we’re aware the control Israel has over US politicians. You can pretend that letting people die is somehow you being above it all, or you can realize this and make the best of a shit sandwich.
Spending your time warning us that the thing you partially are responsible for happening happening is sooooo brave and very strong.
All your support for genocide didn’t win you an election. You’re still supporting genocide anyway.
The idea that literally doing marketting for voter apathy in the most important election of the past multiple decades is a sane take is tantrum throwing naivety.
The idea that supporting genocide was a winning issue was complete nonsense. The left told you it was a losing issue and you accused them of being trumpers for trying to get you to stop. The left was correct. Genocide was a losing issue.
You all, almost certainly not visibly marginalized people made awful decisions that other people had to pay the price for first.
The marginalized people democrats didn’t protect and ran hateful republican talking points against in their own ads.
You aren’t making some poignant criticism, this is a child throwing their food off the pram because they’re annoyed they need food to eat, and it isn’t exactly what they want.
You say that about anyone who wants the genocide wing of the party to stop doing the only thing you love.
You are champagne socialists who act like you’re better than the people being realistic because not getting your hands dirty is doing no work towards the goals you pretend to have.
Since your wing of the party has no credibility about anything but supporting genocide, I can confidently say that I’m better. You’ll never be better and you will work tirelesslyu to make everything worse.
The fact you argue against made up strawmen like this
Centrists cave when they encounter pushback, except for one issue: genocide support. If you don’t like being called a genocide supporter, stop carrying water for the genocide wing of the party.
No practical leftist is happy with the Israeli genocide.
Calling useless pro-genocide centrists “practical leftists” doesn’t change what they are.
There was no primary this time, and we’re aware the control Israel has over US politicians.
And you love it and want it to continue.
You can pretend that letting people die is somehow you being above it all,
You can pretend that you don’t support genocide and absolutely nothing else ever.
or you can realize this and make the best of a shit sandwich.
The continued baseless assertions I am pro genocide with literally no reason in that regard combined with the nonsensical idealistic view of politics that wouldn’t make sense to anyone who thought about it for even a second make this obvious.
Still not an ounce of reasoning for your positions, or even what your positions actually are, just childish imagineering of positions you can pretend I have.
You pretend you are better as a troll while you actively support the republican party, speeding up the decline of America and pushing the democrats even further right.
That’s not a position anyone has been arguing about.
It’s not a position you hold.
It’s a strawman you’ve made up to pretend that doing work for republicans is ok.
Stating opposition to genocide isn’t “doing work for republicans.” No matter how much you wish that everyone was an enthusiastic genocide supporter just like you.
I wish democrats went with AOC or Bernie,
Bullshit.
but the reality is what it is and I am not a child.
The reality is that democrats supported genocide. The reality is that they had no business supporting genocide. The reality is that the election is over and you’re still carrying water for the genocide wing of the party. The reality is that without significant prompting, you’ll never say that genocide is wrong.
You’re a spoiled child who gets 100% of everything they want at all times from the genocide wing, and you never want them to change.
The people partially responsible for its results saying anyone else is carrying water is insanity.
The mid terms are not too long from now (if remotely free elections will exist thanks partially to them), so the idea that it’s all over so let’s let all the marginalized people die because we weren’t happy enough letting all the gazans die is a hell of a take from the people saying they aren’t pro genocide.
The people who spent all of 2024 warning you what would happen. The people that your wing of the party loved genocide too much to listen to. The people who were too insignificant to listen to are now so important that they’re to blame.
Fuck that. You ignored people who knew better than you did because you wanted genocide that badly, and there isn’t a centrist who doesn’t prefer trump over telling netanyahu no.
Spending your time warning us that the thing you partially are responsible for happening happening is sooooo brave and very strong.
The idea that literally doing marketting for voter apathy in the most important election of the past multiple decades is a sane take is tantrum throwing naivety.
You all, almost certainly not visibly marginalized people made awful decisions that other people had to pay the price for first. Probably the only socialism you actually believe in.
You aren’t making some poignant criticism, this is a child throwing their food off the pram because they’re annoyed they need food to eat, and it isn’t exactly what they want.
You are champagne socialists who act like you’re better than the people being realistic because not getting your hands dirty is doing no work towards the goals you pretend to have.
The fact you argue against made up strawmen like this is everything I need to know. You spend time arguing against strawmen as you have no argument with weight.
You have no arguments against anything I’ve actually said.
No practical leftist is happy with the Israeli genocide. Real, actual, non children realize that just because both options lead to some amount of harm does not mean they are the same, nor does it mean there is a magic third option.
There was no primary this time, and we’re aware the control Israel has over US politicians. You can pretend that letting people die is somehow you being above it all, or you can realize this and make the best of a shit sandwich.
All your support for genocide didn’t win you an election. You’re still supporting genocide anyway.
The idea that supporting genocide was a winning issue was complete nonsense. The left told you it was a losing issue and you accused them of being trumpers for trying to get you to stop. The left was correct. Genocide was a losing issue.
The marginalized people democrats didn’t protect and ran hateful republican talking points against in their own ads.
You say that about anyone who wants the genocide wing of the party to stop doing the only thing you love.
Since your wing of the party has no credibility about anything but supporting genocide, I can confidently say that I’m better. You’ll never be better and you will work tirelesslyu to make everything worse.
Centrists cave when they encounter pushback, except for one issue: genocide support. If you don’t like being called a genocide supporter, stop carrying water for the genocide wing of the party.
Calling useless pro-genocide centrists “practical leftists” doesn’t change what they are.
And you love it and want it to continue.
You can pretend that you don’t support genocide and absolutely nothing else ever.
You love the taste.
At this point I can only think you are a troll.
The continued baseless assertions I am pro genocide with literally no reason in that regard combined with the nonsensical idealistic view of politics that wouldn’t make sense to anyone who thought about it for even a second make this obvious.
Still not an ounce of reasoning for your positions, or even what your positions actually are, just childish imagineering of positions you can pretend I have.
You pretend you are better as a troll while you actively support the republican party, speeding up the decline of America and pushing the democrats even further right.
You’re carrying water for genocide supporting candidates long after the election.
There is no amount of reason or justification that will make you accept the position “democrats shouldn’t have supported genocide.”
That’s not a position anyone has been arguing about. It’s a strawman you’ve made up to pretend that doing work for republicans is ok.
I wish democrats went with AOC or Bernie, but the reality is what it is and I am not a child.
It’s not a position you hold.
Stating opposition to genocide isn’t “doing work for republicans.” No matter how much you wish that everyone was an enthusiastic genocide supporter just like you.
Bullshit.
The reality is that democrats supported genocide. The reality is that they had no business supporting genocide. The reality is that the election is over and you’re still carrying water for the genocide wing of the party. The reality is that without significant prompting, you’ll never say that genocide is wrong.
You’re a spoiled child who gets 100% of everything they want at all times from the genocide wing, and you never want them to change.
It’s obvious you are simple troll at this point so there is no point continuing. This is the first troll I’ve met on Lemmy but still disappointing.
You won’t get a rise out of me with your simple “I’ll just say you believe bad thing you don’t believe while pretending to be a leftist” rhetoric.