The collapse of the American empire would benefit almost every other country. I am starting to feel that since I live in America I should want to accelerate the collapse (or make sure one happens if things start to go back to business as usual). Can someone tell me why this is a bad idea so that I don’t make a mistake here.

  • Comrade1917@lemmygrad.mlOP
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    4 days ago

    Is there a chance that the collapse causes a civil war so that the US will be too busy dealing with that to lash out at other countries? The country is polarized enough that I would think it would just take the right moment to cause that to happen. Other countries could take advantage of the weakness of the US during that time to surpass the US in every field. I feel like if a revolution can not be achieved this would be the best alternative because at least the rest of the world would benefit.

    • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]@hexbear.net
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      4 days ago

      A civil war would be entirely one-sided bc one side has all the guns. That’s not really a war, it’s a massacre. And nobody’s gonna risk their neck in the first place if it’s a doomed cause.

      There are two scenarios where there’s a fighting chance, first, if the conflict is between the state and the right, and second, if the left becomes armed and organized.

      The material conditions aren’t set for the left to take advantage of chaos and collapse. The first order of business is to set up the correct material conditions.

        • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]@hexbear.net
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          3 days ago

          I think we need to examine what we’re specifically talking about when we say, “collapse.” The British Empire, the Weimar Republic, and the Qing dynasty all collapsed, but that collapse looked very different in each case.

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            3 days ago

            They will exist as a shadow of their former selves no longer able to wage war or terrorise other countries with impunity

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                3 days ago

                Declining conditions is too vague it can elapse anything from eggs got 0.5 cents more expensive to the economy just collapsed (which would weaken the war machine severely since the army is effectively a money sink with no returns) no in order for the US to collapse it has suffer several defeats at war and forcibly undergo an economic transformation that leaves is more isolated from the world